leeys Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 People, Fujifilm moved production to China and this is a camera that's barely a month old; if you want a better chance at solid reliable cameras never buy them in the first production run or two, let alone coming from an all-new production line. thephoenix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 1:51 PM, androidlad said: Ah I understand now, I went through some of images and videos you posted, I agree you totally made the right decision returning everything, as X-T3 doesn't deserve you, neither does 1DX II. Expand Not sure what you mean by that. I don't make a dime from photos and video, it's only something I do for fun... And last I checked cameras do not deserve people... Cameras are inanimate objects. If taking personal pictures of my family is not deserving... well you can go fuk yourself. I don't recall begging you for the $15k I dumped into the Fuji system. And for the life of me I fail to recollect you chipping in for the $30k plus for the 1DXMk2 with lenses and support gear. So to that end who cares what you think deserves what? I simply shared my personal experience and you look at it as an opportunity to launch a personal attack. Having hardware fail is not "fun" in my experience. But if you enjoy that aspect.. well, what can I say... have fun? hansel and eyesuncloudedphoto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVranic Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 3:13 PM, DBounce said: Not sure what you mean by that. I don't make a dime from photos and video, it's only something I do for fun... And last I checked cameras do not deserve people... Cameras are inanimate objects. If taking personal pictures of my family is not deserving... well you can go fuk yourself. I don't recall begging you for the $15k I dumped into the Fuji system. And for the life of me I fail to recollect you chipping in for the $30k plus for the 1DXMk2 with lenses and support gear. So to that end who cares what you think deserves what? I simply shared my personal experience and you look at it as an opportunity to launch a personal attack. Having hardware fail is not "fun" in my experience. But if you enjoy that aspect.. well, what can I say... have fun? Expand Man, I'm sorry to hear about all of this. The inane toxicity of the EOSHD forums is sickening. DBounce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 1:51 PM, androidlad said: Ah I understand now, I went through some of images and videos you posted, I agree you totally made the right decision returning everything, as X-T3 doesn't deserve you, neither does 1DX II. Expand Not fair man.. seanzzxx, heart0less, ac6000cw and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanzzxx Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 1:51 PM, androidlad said: Ah I understand now, I went through some of images and videos you posted, I agree you totally made the right decision returning everything, as X-T3 doesn't deserve you, neither does 1DX II. Expand Jesus, what a petty and defensive responsive to someone being understandably wary of a brand after getting two duds in a row. DBounce, ac6000cw, Geoff CB and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 8:19 AM, Mattias Burling said: This is why I didn't keep my a6300 or bought the a6500. I got three lemon a6300 from separate batches.. the trust is gone. Expand Wow! I am surprised to hear that. I use my a6500 HARD and have never had a problem with it. On the other hand, I know Sony lenses have a bad reputation for quality control from batch to batch (or from lens to lens), so I guess I shouldn't be surprised about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wolf33d Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/7/2018 at 3:13 PM, DBounce said: Not sure what you mean by that. I don't make a dime from photos and video, it's only something I do for fun... And last I checked cameras do not deserve people... Cameras are inanimate objects. If taking personal pictures of my family is not deserving... well you can go fuk yourself. I don't recall begging you for the $15k I dumped into the Fuji system. And for the life of me I fail to recollect you chipping in for the $30k plus for the 1DXMk2 with lenses and support gear. So to that end who cares what you think deserves what? I simply shared my personal experience and you look at it as an opportunity to launch a personal attack. Having hardware fail is not "fun" in my experience. But if you enjoy that aspect.. well, what can I say... have fun? Expand Sorry but @androidlad is not totally wrong and your words are a bit disproportioned. While I would not allow myself to say that a "camera can or cannot deserve someone" like he did, I am a bit shocked at the quality of your outputs versus the equipment you have. No offense meant at all just my point of view. Good for you that you can spend 45 000$ on 2 camera system, but again what is the point if you get those results (stills you posted above)? You would get the same results (and could get better) with a Canon T2i. I am just a bit shocked. Anyway, you are totally free to buy what you want and do the pics you want, and I imagine I can also go fuk myself too... As far as the hardware failure is concerned, I am hopeful for Fuji that it is an isolated case, and sorry to hear it happened to you, it sucks for sure especially twice in a row. Good that you can return them for sure. For the canon, at $6000 and 1.5KG it better be reliable! jhnkng and webrunner5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted November 9, 2018 Author Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 1:24 AM, wolf33d said: Sorry but @androidlad is not totally wrong and your words are a bit disproportioned. While I would not allow myself to say that a "camera can or cannot deserve someone" like he did, I am a bit shocked at the quality of your outputs versus the equipment you have. No offense meant at all just my point of view. Good for you that you can spend 45 000$ on 2 camera system, but again what is the point if you get those results (stills you posted above)? You would get the same results (and could get better) with a Canon T2i. I am just a bit shocked. Anyway, you are totally free to buy what you want and do the pics you want, and I imagine I can also go fuk myself too... As far as the hardware failure is concerned, I am hopeful for Fuji that it is an isolated case, and sorry to hear it happened to you, it sucks for sure especially twice in a row. Good that you can return them for sure. For the canon, at $6000 and 1.5KG it better be reliable! Expand Thanks... I now understand that I suck a this stuff. I really needed that wake up. It's a silly hobby. I think only pros should dabble with this stuff. webrunner5, Mark Romero 2 and PannySVHS 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 3:17 AM, DBounce said: Thanks... I now understand that I suck a this stuff. I really needed that wake up. It's a silly hobby. I think only pros should dabble with this stuff. Expand Ahh come on. You know like anyone we all can get better. I suck ass at editing. But it doesn't stop me from being excited about all this stuff. Hell I will get better if I try to get better. Photography, Video is just too much fun to pass it up. And shooting your son growing up and any other children you have is a gift they will never forget. You also. Keep at it. You have a great looking family. Your lucky you have a wife that is willing to model for you. And I enjoy seeing your sons progress. I was into Karting pretty big time my self even as an adult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 3:27 AM, webrunner5 said: Ahh come on. You know like anyone we all can get better. I suck ass at editing. But it doesn't stop me from being excited about all this stuff. Hell I will get better if I try to get better. Photography, Video is just too much fun to pass it up. And shooting your son growing up and any other children you have is a gift they will never forget. You also. Keep at it. You have a great looking family. Your lucky you have a wife that is willing to model for you. And I enjoy seeing your sons progress. I was into Karting pretty big time my self even as an adult. Expand I am guessing DBounce was being sarcastic but its hard to tell online. Nice to see some encouraging thoughts around here though. That said I am not surprised someone would drop that cash on a hobby. I used to do World War 2 reenacting, people would purchase vehicles that cost twice as much as my parents house. Because they liked it. seanzzxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Collins Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 I enjoy travel photography most but I have no doubt that the only stuff I do that will stand some reasonable test of time - is the family stuff. Just finished a book of photos of my son’s first 5 years.... austinchimp, seanzzxx, BTM_Pix and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post austinchimp Posted November 9, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 Jesus, what happened to keeping criticism constructive and supportive? I came to this forum hoping to find a community of likeminded film makers interested in the new possibilities of smaller, cheaper cameras, and I stayed because of the variety and frequency of discussions. This forum always seems to be more on top of new news than others. But lately it's all been about attacking other blogs and youtubers, denigrating your peers, and now giving really harsh and insensitive criticism to each other. I would never post my own work in this forum now. I wouldn't expect to receive any useful criticism from a place where there are so many thin-skinned, insecure and defensive people. Of course there are many intelligent, experienced and positive people here too, but they increasingly seem to keep their heads down these days. graphicnatured, seanzzxx, bamigoreng and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Talking like that about the work of others on this forum with no sufficient reason happens once in a while. @DBounce I wouldnt care about the contents of comments like the one above. It lacks a valid point and emphathy as well. I like your work and contributions very much. They dont have to have Spielberg shotdesign nor Storarro colors all the time. hansel and austinchimp 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyyyel Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 It is true that sometimes I cannot understand the kind of gear some people have compared to their photography and videography they do. perhaps because I live in a second world country and cannot phantom how people can by for example as a Nikon user a z7 when you are not a pro. One thing I would advise some, take your money and buy lesser gear and use the rest to take some courses etc. No gear is going to make your photo or video better, we have reach the level that most of us are the limiting factor, but some know how will make a drastic difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Popular Post BTM_Pix Posted November 9, 2018 Super Members Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2018 So, let me get this straight... A forum member (who contributes a lot to this place by the way) makes a cautionary post about having two separate failures of a camera model that many people on here may be looking to buy and the response is to criticise his work ? Are you trying to suggest he broke these cameras by virtue of taking photographs that you don't particularly like ? Have I got that right? That both of these cameras self destructed on the grounds of taste? Because if you are not suggesting that then you need to accept that your contribution to this particular thread is as irrelevant as it is mean spirited. ac6000cw, Mattias Burling, seanzzxx and 8 others 6 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Yikes. Two bodies failing. I put my XT2’s through the ringer and the ISO dial fell off one requiring a complete $200 top plate replacement. IMO it was caused by having to constantly switch the mode dial from video to stills, something I do a couple dozen times a day when shooting. Until Fuji figures a better system, I’m sticking with the a73 as my main cam. chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted November 9, 2018 Super Members Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 12:26 PM, Trek of Joy said: Yikes. Two bodies failing. I put my XT2’s through the ringer and the ISO dial fell off one requiring a complete $200 top plate replacement. IMO it was caused by having to constantly switch the mode dial from video to stills, something I do a couple dozen times a day when shooting. Until Fuji figures a better system, I’m sticking with the a73 as my main cam. chris Expand Thats one of the reasons I did the X-Pro2. You can just hit record at any time. Also one of the reasons I got the EOS-R. Trek of Joy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 On 11/9/2018 at 1:49 PM, Mattias Burling said: Thats one of the reasons I did the X-Pro2. You can just hit record at any time. Also one of the reasons I got the EOS-R. Expand From all reports that I am hearing - you need to go through 3 different hits/processes to get from photo to video (and vice versa) on the EOS-R??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansel Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 What a low blow. Disgusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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