Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 7, 2018 Administrators Share Posted November 7, 2018 Z-LOG is an in-camera LOG profile for video shooting on the Nikon Z7 and Z6 mirrorless cameras, and most Nikon DSLRs. Available now BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadcode Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Z-LOG is an in-camera LOG profile for video shooting on the Nikon Z7 and Z6 mirrorless cameras, and most Nikon DSLRs. Available now Gorgeous! Please show more samples! Maybe early bird discount for the first 10 buyer? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 7, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted November 7, 2018 The image quality is impressive. Download the original files from the main page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Cool. Do you have any footage comparison with Flat profile (instead of standard)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepwalk Cinema Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Hi Andrew, This is really encouraging. Excellent work! How does this work with an external recorder? Do your Z-Log profiles allow video to output at full 4:2:2 10-bit color depth over HDMI? What (stock) control over sharpening do users have with in a 10-bit N-Log over HDMI scenario? In order to create one's own profiles, is it a matter of using Nikon's Picture Control Utility 2? I have a Z6 on order, so I'm immensely curious... Thanks for your expertise! Vintage Jimothy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 8, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted November 8, 2018 Yes it does work with an external recorder as well. But the quality internally is so good with it, I wouldn't bother with one. On the Z6 you already have N-LOG for HDMI. This is more for internal recording when you don't want to bother with the hassle and wobbly HDMI cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrzalík Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Does Anybody have trouble with saving files into camera? I have Nikon D5300 with the latest firmware. I have done everything what is written in installation guide. I created NIKON folder, then CUSTOMPC subfolder and copied into it all 3 NP2 files. But my camera sees no files on memory card. So I can´t copy files into camera. Any suggestion what to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 9, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted November 9, 2018 5 hours ago, Vrzalík said: Does Anybody have trouble with saving files into camera? I have Nikon D5300 with the latest firmware. I have done everything what is written in installation guide. I created NIKON folder, then CUSTOMPC subfolder and copied into it all 3 NP2 files. But my camera sees no files on memory card. So I can´t copy files into camera. Any suggestion what to do? Try renaming the NCP files as follows: PICCON01.NCP PICCON02.NCP PICCON03.NCP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 Hi, I just bought your picture profile for my D850. After I read all the pretty good comment on your work for the Sony's dslr. I just run a couple of quick test with the different flavours of your "Z-Log" in comparaison of the Flat picture profile. Now i wonder what's the difference ? I mean where is the improvement ? I didn't see any increase in term of DR neither in term of color rendition (the flat PP was already great for that). I applied the same basic lut to my footage, exposed to the same value. Footage with skin tones (thanks to my girlfriend) mixed light source, shadows and highlight. I even noted that the Z-Log Cinema introduce a weird sat and end up less "cinematic" than the regular Flat PP. Maybe i'm doing something wrong ? But i would love to hear from you in your opinions what's best in your picture profile than in the regular one ? And even a comparaison with the N-log (for the Z's cameras) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterrees5528 Posted November 9, 2018 Share Posted November 9, 2018 A flat profile comparison would be very helpful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 10, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted November 10, 2018 It's the difference between Canon LOG and a flat profile. With the flat profile, I find Nikon start the black level quite low and so the shadows get more compression. H.264 doesn't prioritise that area. With Z-LOG I start the black level a lot higher like Canon LOG does and also the colour gamut is different. Also there are two Z-LOG profiles - Cinema and "L". In Cinema mode the camera uses the best Nikon colour science there is, the basis of which is the Standard profile. I was able to get absolutely superb results from this, with minimal grading effort. In L mode it uses a colour gamut similar to Sony S-LOG and that makes it more compatible with existing LUTs. Jacob - not sure what LUT you are using. You can't use the same LUT on Flat, Z-LOG Cinema and Z-LOG L as they all have different gamma curves and colour spaces. I'd be happy to see some of your tests but the original footage rather than the graded stuff. If you post graded stuff I don't know what you are doing to the file. Also it might be that the scene you shot of your girlfriend isn't challenging in terms of dynamic range so you won't see the advantage of Z-LOG over one of Nikon's built in profiles, especially in the blacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted November 10, 2018 Share Posted November 10, 2018 My experience with my own log profile on the d800 was that you want underexpose /protect highlights and denoise after. The log profile will hold your detail in the shadow and the under exposure will give you nice highlights. Afterwards, instead of applying a S curve, try to just darken below midtowns. This way everything looks natural/cinematic. External recording will protect the noise more. tomsemiterrific and salim 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrzalík Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Thanks for help! I renamed files but it didn't work. If anybody knows anything about this problem. I will be glad for any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, Vrzalík said: Thanks for help! I renamed files but it didn't work. If anybody knows anything about this problem. I will be glad for any help. You could try View NX which comes with the picture style editor. You can import edit and export all picture styles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 11, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted November 11, 2018 10 hours ago, Vrzalík said: Thanks for help! I renamed files but it didn't work. If anybody knows anything about this problem. I will be glad for any help. Renaming the files fixed it on my older Nikon DSLR. Email me and I'll help you there. Vrzalík 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vrzalík Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 21 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: Renaming the files fixed it on my older Nikon DSLR. Email me and I'll help you there. Thanks! Everything works! webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasiliskFilm Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Are you planning on getting the Z6 Andrew? Your Log footage on the Z7 is pretty smooth, but jaggies are visible if you look hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danyyyel Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 Someone testing the z6 and seems some test of the zlog. I wouldn't call it a good advertisement for the zlog given the subject. I would really have liked to see what human beings etc and his first samples where completely overexposed etc, I don't know if he used zlog in there. Young 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Hi Andrew, When using the Cinema profile on the Z7, I can't get Zebras to show on blown highlights. Is this by design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted November 23, 2018 Author Administrators Share Posted November 23, 2018 Set the Zebra display threshold to 235 and it will work. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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