wolf33d Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 You guys seem to have a problem understanding this is a 61mpx 10fps FF pro still camera. It's already cool to have that kind of video features on it which does not exist in any competitor. It's a world first in many areas. This camera has nothing to do on EOSHD for video. Panasonic is the world first mirrorless 4K60P FF camera and they had to have a massive body for heat at 24mpx so imagine 61mpx...? Clearly impossible. This will be for the A7SIII. Where I am really disappointed is having only this announcement today. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob6 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 No 4k 60p?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I think of that.. that there is nothing really new except audio. Slightly bumped specs and thats it. Waiting for A7S3 then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 kinda underwhelming on the video end. specs are identical to last years entry-level A73 aside from Eye-AF.. then again yeah, R model is landscape / studio stills oriented camera line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryne275 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Seriously, where the fuck is the A7s III? What is taking Sony sooooo long? Heat management? Sony currently has NO mirrorless camera on the market today that can do 4K/60. Sad. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 The only good surprise in video is the auto focus with real time eye and active tracking. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, ryne275 said: Seriously, where the fuck is the A7s III? What is taking Sony sooooo long? Heat management? Sony currently has NO mirrorless camera on the market today that can do 4K/60. Sad. This. I think it's hard to blame Sony for not having 4K60 on the RIV that is 100% still oriented and that gives amazing stills specs that does not exist on the market. However they really suck with the A7S and A6500 replacement schedule. They have no excuse for no camera body with 4K60p. That sucks. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davide Roveri Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Magnificent still camera (and as a timelapse photographer I can only be jubilant!) Unfortunately it's official that video specs are unchanged from the a7rIII (apart from the inclusion of eye tracking AF which is nice) I guess we'll have to keep waiting for the new A7S then ? https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/interchangeable-lens-cameras/ilce-7rm4/specifications Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil A Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 The best thing about this camera is that maybe it makes the used market for Mark III cameras more attractive ? Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Just now, Phil A said: The best thing about this camera is that maybe it makes the used market for Mark III cameras more attractive ? This. The A7r3 is still a hell of a camera with an in incredible sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 This still plays into my theory that the body is too small to allow higher video frame rates. They will have to come out with a completely different camera (larger with possibly a fan) to have any kind of serious specs for 60p 4k and beyond. They might be able to do it with an APS-C sensor but not FF in that small of a body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terozzz Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Its a bye bye sony, 3500$ camera and NO 10bit or 4K 60P? Fail, the biggest flop of 2019... Yes monster still camera but the f@ck Sony even dares to say it is also for PRO video shooters... amanieux and zerocool22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 I don't know.... I have a feeling that Sony is taking cues from Canon... who seems to be taking cues from Pentax. terozzz and JordanWright 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frontfocus Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 If I get this right, it's either a pixel binned full sensor size readout or a 6K readout from sub APS-C area, downsampled to 4K. Both at 30fps maximum. Still 100Mbps max still 8 bit only, even when using an external recorder and still no 4K DCI? I guess that means the A7SIII is still coming this year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Why can't they give us HDMI out 10 bit.... Whatever though, its a nice hybrid camera if you need high MP stills. Emanuel and zerocool22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 61mpx is how many pixels wide and high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 44 minutes ago, Geoff CB said: This. The A7r3 is still a hell of a camera with an in incredible sensor. Yes, on Fred Miranda the r3 is selling at $1750 in one post and the r2 is now under $1000, same sensor. That's a bargain and they'll just get cheaper as more try to shift their cameras. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4cl00 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Why does Sony not realize that throwing more pixels and bells and features at it isn’t the right way to innovate anymore? I’m more enthusiastic by Sigma’s recent announcement. Although the specs aren’t as good, it looks as if they rethought the camera. What do you want to do? Shoot film or photos? One dial, the interface adapts and remains minimalistic. Sony: one mess exposing everything. Aesthetics, shooting pleasure, ditching features and ignoring conventions, looking at what people want, that’s what matters. Sony needs a stronger product positioning team and hide the engineering from its end-users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip77 Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Still 100Mbps ? Wow. Talking about holding back. Here's Sony's problem. By making the S and R series, what happens when the A7SIII or A7SIV has to be so great at video (market specs) that the stills photography functions now become better then the A7RIII series? This is why the A7R IV was announced first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 16, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2019 My thoughts. It's a snore fest of committee led numbers at expense of real, bold creative design decisions. https://www.eoshd.com/2019/07/sony-a7r-iv-no-8k-no-10bit-no-nd-no-point/ Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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