thephoenix Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, heart0less said: This looks so cheap. and pretty easy to do by yourself. but hey, at least some start to produce some resolve packs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart0less Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 3 hours ago, thephoenix said: but hey, at least some start to produce some resolve packs Yup, it's high time Resolve got more recognition. It really deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted May 18, 2019 Author Share Posted May 18, 2019 11 hours ago, andrew_dotdot said: I use the face enhance regularly, and I like it. I don't use it to change the look very much, but I use it judiciously for the following things: * sharpen the eyes * a gentle "remove eye-bags" does wonders * sometimes "remove shine" is helpful for hair-impaired men * brighten or darken a face independently of other nodes in the grade So, it's totally fine for a quick enhance. I've not used other beauty plug-ins -- so I can't compare, I'm afraid. Sometime, though, I wish you could use the mask it generates to do other things outside the face enhance tool itself. You see that nice mask and that nice outline, and you wish you could convert it to a tracked window, for example. You can! Step 1: apply the plugin Step 2: select the "Show Mask" box under Skin Mask Step 3: connect another node like this, then apply adjustments in the second node: As you can see it's not perfect, but this is probably a bad example and I didn't try at all to refine it, and there are lots of mask refinement adjustments in the Face Refinement plugin. Bonus Tip: you can do this with any node that has a "show mask" feature. I've done it with the EdgeDetect plugin, for example to soften only particularly harsh edges, etc. Lots of potential using this method to get highly stylised effects that no single plugin can do by itself. Geoff CB, buggz and andrew_dotdot 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_dotdot Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 5 hours ago, kye said: You can! Step 1: apply the plugin Step 2: select the "Show Mask" box under Skin Mask Step 3: connect another node like this, then apply adjustments in the second node: As you can see it's not perfect, but this is probably a bad example and I didn't try at all to refine it, and there are lots of mask refinement adjustments in the Face Refinement plugin. Bonus Tip: you can do this with any node that has a "show mask" feature. I've done it with the EdgeDetect plugin, for example to soften only particularly harsh edges, etc. Lots of potential using this method to get highly stylised effects that no single plugin can do by itself. Wow! I made a rather halfarsed attempt to do this one time and failed. I will definiera give this another try. Thank you! kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Some may find this useful... Toms videos are pitched at people less familiar with colour grading, but are thorough. TL;DR: First node is to convert whatever format you shot (eg, log) into a more rec709 amount of contrast and saturation Second node has a key for skin tones and you can adjust mid-tone detail for a beauty effect if you like Third node is applying a LUT for a cool look Fourth node is in parallel to the third node, and gets inputs from the second node of both the image and the key (which is inverted) The third and fourth node go into a Layer mixer which goes to output What this does is basically put the skin tones on top of the LUT, and then adjusting the Key Output you can adjust how transparent the skin is, blending it into the overall look. Anaconda_ and heart0less 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 personaly i find the result pretty ugly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 8 hours ago, thephoenix said: personaly i find the result pretty ugly From Toms video? What about it don't you like? I could do without the skin tone smoothing myself, but the technique is pretty standard, I just don't think I'd posted a video showing how to do strong colouring and still keep reasonable skin tones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I think overall her skin tone looks as bad graded as it did to start with. So what if it is smoother. Geoff CB and kye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 8 hours ago, kye said: From Toms video? What about it don't you like? I could do without the skin tone smoothing myself, but the technique is pretty standard, I just don't think I'd posted a video showing how to do strong colouring and still keep reasonable skin tones. actually there is nothing i like about it. the grading looks bad to me but the worst is what he does to the models poor face. look at it, she looks like a freak, well it is an exemple of what you can do so i hope he doesn't produces videos with faces like that. look at the image coming from the video, she looks like an alien to whom you added eyes and mouth. there are better ways to do that. it like in photoshop, you can remove everething and a lot of people tend to do that because once you started you can't stop but what's the result ? wax skin and alien look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 11 hours ago, kye said: From Toms video? What about it don't you like? I could do without the skin tone smoothing myself, but the technique is pretty standard, I just don't think I'd posted a video showing how to do strong colouring and still keep reasonable skin tones. I didn't watch all of it, but he doesn't seem to convert S-Gamut to Rec.709. I know that he has skills and a good reputation, but I always find it amateurish when people apply some contrast and forget about the gamut. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 Jeez, you guys are harsh.... he does a couple of side things the wrong way and so you throw away what was (for me) the point of the whole video - the layer of skin tones put back over the LUT to get a believable result even if you have a strong grade. That's why I posted it. I agree that not converting to rec709 properly wasn't the right way to start, I agree that smoothing then blurring the skin wasn't a nice thing to do either, but if you're going to discount someone because they did that then go watch Juan Melaras videos on repeat because no other youtuber meets your standards. I've watched hundreds and hundreds of grading videos and I'm pretty sure I've seen every YT colourist do either one or both of those things on their channels before!! ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 That's actually a good advice, I watched some of Juan Melaras videos on repeat kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Attila Bakos said: That's actually a good advice, I watched some of Juan Melaras videos on repeat Me too! So much knowledge packed into such a short amount of time, they're deceptively simple too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Sorry, but he Needs to pull that video off of YouTube. Embarrassing, and really bad advice and a bad output. He ought to know better. He does have talent, but apparently not with grading a woman's face. I feel sorry for the actress. thephoenix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 hi all i have a new project starting. rushes are 780go on my computer i have a 1to ssd and a hard drive of 4to, the hd is 5400rpm. do you think it can handle 4k rushes ? i think not but prefer to ask. asking because my 1to disk isn't empty by the way, i need to backup my project, but in resolve i don't really get the difference between "entire project" and "timelines" and when i export entire project it just exports my rushes, the database files aren't. so what is the best way to export all my project so i can eventually re work on it someday ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 @thephoenix For a project that size, I would edit and grade in 1080 and then change the timeline resolution to 4K before the export. I've often had much better playback rates working this way on larger timelines. Of course, change to 4K before you do any graphics/titles as well to avoid them being the the wrong part of the frame later on Doing it this way, you might be able to get away with using the slower drive, but not sure. Or once you've got a first draft edit from the slower drive, you could move the media that you're definitely using to the faster one, leaving the clips you don't need behind. As for exporting the project for reopening on another machine, or simply to keep things organised, I open the first menu (the home in the bottom right), right click on the project you want and then select Export Project and save it the .drp file wherever you need it to be. This is just the project file, so it won't copy any of your media along with it. I hope that helps thephoenix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said: @thephoenix For a project that size, I would edit and grade in 1080 and then change the timeline resolution to 4K before the export. I've often had much better playback rates working this way on larger timelines. Of course, change to 4K before you do any graphics/titles as well to avoid them being the the wrong part of the frame later on Doing it this way, you might be able to get away with using the slower drive, but not sure. Or once you've got a first draft edit from the slower drive, you could move the media that you're definitely using to the faster one, leaving the clips you don't need behind. As for exporting the project for reopening on another machine, or simply to keep things organised, I open the first menu (the home in the bottom right), right click on the project you want and then select Export Project and save it the .drp file wherever you need it to be. This is just the project file, so it won't copy any of your media along with it. I hope that helps thanks when opening the drp file you need to relocate all rushes ? right ? does it keep all cuts, transitions, grading etc... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 As long as the footage and media is in the same location as your last save, it'll open as normal with everything still connected. If your media is in a different locations, you just need to point resolve to the folder it's been moved to and it'll connect everything in that folder. Cuts, colour, transitions etc. Are all left the same. thephoenix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thephoenix Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Emanuel said: aprils fool ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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