Administrators Andrew Reid Posted January 15, 2019 Administrators Share Posted January 15, 2019 This cut-price unimaginative attempt to corner the Vlogger market is a load of shit. Oops. This will be a short blog post. Read the full article Marco Tecno, Kisaha and frontfocus 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Unreal! I purchased a refurbished basically like new a6500 in June from Adorma for around $800. I agree with your post this would be a much better deal. This is def one of those “what were they thinking” products. IronFilm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted January 15, 2019 Super Members Share Posted January 15, 2019 Get off the fence and tell us what you really think of it Was looking at the list of updates they announced in the new firmware for the a9 thinking "surely somewhere in that long list they'll have finally added picture profiles...." Nope. deezid and Andrew Reid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 10:27 PM, BTM_Pix said: Get off the fence and tell us what you really think of it Was looking at the list of updates they announced in the new firmware for the a9 thinking "surely somewhere in that long list they'll have finally added picture profiles...." Nope. Expand Did you check on the "and many others" section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Ha ha the camera is a massive flop. Clearly Sony have learned nothing about ergonomics and how people actually use their cameras. PrometheusDM, frontfocus, IronFilm and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Agreed. The hate is warranted, Sony must have their head in the sand at this point, I'm pretty sure they could ask my mum (who knows nothing about cameras) and she would have got half those things right. So much opportunity, so many issues. I went through the process of getting a Vlog style setup for my partner recently. I ended up with the EOSm50. I already had the 22mm and 18-55mm from a past EOSm purchase and got the 11-22mm with it. Honestly I think it's the best option at the moment. For better quality I have a GH5, but for walk around selfie stuff the EOSm's light weight, flippy screen, mic in, audio out and flawless autofocus is hard to beat (also the price was good 700USD for the package). If Canon or Sony (or anyone) does an EOSm50 with 4K (possibly 60fps) and IBIS it will sell very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted January 15, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 10:27 PM, BTM_Pix said: Get off the fence and tell us what you really think of it Was looking at the list of updates they announced in the new firmware for the a9 thinking "surely somewhere in that long list they'll have finally added picture profiles...." Nope. Expand It's baffling!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Thought this might be able to be my next vlogging camera, as with the Sony 20mm pancake it could be a pretty sweet compact setup. I can even overlook the selfie screen / hotshoe clashing, but no IBIS?? Sorry, the cheaper Panasonic G85 still reigns supreme in my desires to by my next vlogging camera. Dustin, TurboRat, TheRealOG and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Canon only needs to offer a full sensor readout 4k in M50 replacement, then Sony APS-C is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted January 15, 2019 Super Members Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 10:35 PM, Kisaha said: Did you check on the "and many others" section? Expand If the details of that are in their official press release then it must be in a white font. A small one. On a white background Seems some of those features are only coming in the summer v6.0 as well rather than the more immediate v5.0 https://www.nbc-2.com/story/39794865/sony-announces-9-camera-upgrade-through-major-firmware-updates Fair play to them for adding more functionality though. On 1/15/2019 at 11:03 PM, Andrew Reid said: It's baffling!! Expand I presume its only Theresa May levels of myopic stubborness that stops them accepting its barely made a dent in the market they wanted it to but that it could still have legs as a bit of a hybrid powerhouse. deezid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 10:46 PM, tweak said: Agreed. The hate is warranted, Sony must have their head in the sand at this point, I'm pretty sure they could ask my mum (who knows nothing about cameras) and she would have got half those things right. So much opportunity, so many issues. Expand Sony.... the next Canon? On 1/15/2019 at 10:46 PM, tweak said: If Canon or Sony (or anyone) does an EOSm50 with 4K (possibly 60fps) and IBIS it will sell very well. Expand It exists. Is called "the Panasonic G85". newfoundmass and noplz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliKMIA Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 +1 for the Turkey but this isn't completely absurd neither. The launch price is below what it was with the a6300 ($1,000). The a6500 started at $1400 if I remember correctly. So this new a6300 is the "cheap no IBIS" entry level segment while the next a7000 will come with all the fancy specs. That said, I doubt that Sony will fix the ergonomics and usability on this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 The M50 is the best priced vlogging camera atm. Who needs 4k for vlogging. If they fixed the slow rolling shutter it would be a more worthy camera. Still not a terrible choice if you get past the RS. Auto focus is insane looking. I assume the A7000 will be like $2000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/15/2019 at 10:12 PM, Andrew Reid said: This cut-price unimaginative attempt to corner the Vlogger market is a load of shit. Oops. This will be a short blog post. Read the full article Expand I think this camera is intended to replace the a6300, which was still being sold alongside the a6500 (Sony do this with a lot of their cameras, there is a range of versions at any one time). People who would normally be buying the a6300 would be buying this instead. The a6500 will be replaced by a newer higher end model and that would address a different part of the market. Just think of it as a RX100 VA with an interchangeable lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 2:08 AM, Mokara said: I think this camera is intended to replace the a6300, which was still being sold alongside the a6500 (Sony do this with a lot of their cameras, there is a range of versions at any one time). People who would normally be buying the a6300 would be buying this instead. The a6500 will be replaced by a newer higher end model and that would address a different part of the market. Just think of it as a RX100 VA with an interchangeable lens. Expand Seems like it would make more sense to do this with a new sensor and limited features then release a higher end A7100 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Uses the old battery too, which doesn't even last 30min in 4k. Ironfilm beat me to it; they are going to start doing "Canon" moves now that they got some market share. They reused the 2015 sensor in the a7riii as well, it's happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 2:24 AM, thebrothersthre3 said: Seems like it would make more sense to do this with a new sensor and limited features then release a higher end A7100 or something. Expand Not really, it fits with Sony's long time strategy of graded products, using older tech for the sake of economy. It is very similar to what they did with the RX100 VA replacing the RX100 V while at the same time adding the VI model. These sorts of products are intended as entry level cameras, and cost of materials is critical there. So they use components they already have. In this case it is most of the a6300 with the LSI from more recent products added but without the expensive IBIS mechanisms. So, nothing really new, but it fits in the low cost entry level niche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 2:31 AM, Mokara said: Not really, it fits with Sony's long time strategy of graded products, using older tech for the sake of economy. It is very similar to what they did with the RX100 VA replacing the RX100 V while at the same time adding the VI model. These sorts of products are intended as entry level cameras, and cost of materials is critical there. So they use components they already have. In this case it is most of the a6300 with the LSI from more recent products added but without the expensive IBIS mechanisms. So, nothing really new, but it fits in the low cost entry level niche. Expand IBIS would have made sense in this supposed vlogging camera. But yeah they are saving money while delivering a subpar product IMO. noplz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 2:43 AM, thebrothersthre3 said: IBIS would have made sense in this supposed vlogging camera. But yeah they are saving money while delivering a subpar product IMO. Expand But they said its the best AF in the world!!! I look forward to the jumpy micro stuttering AF & sensor dust on the videos from this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 3:05 AM, Snowbro said: But they said its the best AF in the world!!! I look forward to the jumpy micro stuttering AF & sensor dust on the videos from this ? Expand haha, I have to say the auto focus does look wonderful tho. Oh well, I am still happy with my Fuji, its to the point where its good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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