ch_d Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 Hello. I am very new to the anamorphic section of cinematography. Recently i got two lenses (projection lenses). I´ve attached a picture of the two lenses. Are they any good? I´ve read the anamorphic guide and there is this paragraph "avoid projection lenses". So is there a chance to build a usable rig with one of this lenses? Otherwise - i really like the Iscorama 36, because of the 1,5x and the focusing! But hey, i have to eat too :( I got a tip of the Isco Star - Is it a good start? Thanx, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted June 5, 2013 Share Posted June 5, 2013 I have no experience with möller lenses myself. However, I have a red Ultra Star and I really like that lens. You can find more info on the ultra star in a few older threads if you search the forum. Very sharp lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francisco Rios Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 ...mine said "for projection only"...welcome to Moller world http://www.flickr.com/photos/franciscoriosanderson/8293300512/ :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ergopossum Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I have the 16/32/1.5x Moller, which is not a projector lens but I believe the optics are fairly similar. The image quality is among the best of the anamorphic adapter lenses, from what I've seen. My understanding is the projector lenses by Moller produce a nice image, too, but projector lenses tend to have three main shortcomings: 1) they can be long, heavy, and difficult to mount to your taking lens 2) they have a long barrel that results in heavy vignetting on wider lenses 3) minimum focus distance tends to be on the poor side. Usually no closer than 5 feet without diopters. There are non-projector lenses with that setback, as well, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch_d Posted June 6, 2013 Author Share Posted June 6, 2013 Hello. So i´ve mounted the moeller to my 5DMII +VAF-5D2b Optical Anti-Aliasing Filter and recorded with the ML raw video hack (4:3). Lenses are the Helios 58mm and a Ricoh 135mm. With the Helios i´ve strong vignetting caused by the long projector lens and i have to reduce my cropping. With the Ricoh 135mm no problems - i can even record at 1600x1200! Here are the shots (x264): 1. http://www.christiandietl.at/anamorph/58mm_helios_moeller-x264.mov 2. http://www.christiandietl.at/anamorph/135mm_ricoh_moeller-x264.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 I've myself used the Ultra Star on Nikon AI-S 85mm f/2 and 105mm f/2.5. No vignetting on either of them, both have a small front diameter for the lenses (filter size is 52mm as a measure). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netm8kr Posted June 8, 2013 Share Posted June 8, 2013 Hey Chris and EOS fam. I just joined the community myself today. Last night I picked up an identical Isco 2x as well off "eBay". This will be my first anamorphic lens. So the feedback will be appreciated by me as well. I have already learned a lot from this forum this month. All the pics and videos are very inspiring. Peace...Netm8kr (John) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dahlfors Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Here's a whole thread about Isco projection lenses: http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/972-isco-anamorphic-projection-lenses/ Here's a post with some really nice stills taken with Isco ultra star projection lens: http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/1808-bolex-anamorphot-1632-15x-my-little-gem/?p=24417 One of my own posts where I added some stills I've shot with my Isco ultra star: http://www.eoshd.com/comments/topic/2543-vid-atlantic-lens-sales/?p=32162 Also, my Ultra star works with 50mm lenses on APS-C sized sensors without much vignetting. Something around 75mm would be alright for fullframe, but I only have a 85mm f/2 - no vignetting with that one on full frame sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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