Kisaha Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Django said: It isn't really that simple. Canon uses two types of lens motors STM & USM. On legacy EF glass, STM will give smoother & more silent AF results for video. With RF USM they use a new nano-USM tech that gives STM like smooth & silent video AF performance. Now from my legacy glass adapted on EOS R experience, USM EF glass is louder & a bit less responsive than on a Canon DSLR. (YMMV depending on lens). STM EF is about the same. There are a few NANO-USM EF-S lenses that are the fastest and most reliable focusing Canon lenses ever build. That is why, while I do not own a Canon camera, I have purchased the Nano 18-135 to use when renting C100mkII, or others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted February 5, 2019 Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, DBounce said: Have you noticed anything that would deter you from using legacy glass on the R mount? Honestly of the lenses I own the difference is near enough as makes no difference. Deter me probably not.. but again i've definitely noticed some differences in loudness, speed & smoothness of the AF especially with fast USM glass (F1.2/1.4). The difference becomes more important when shooting stills imo, as all the AF points on EOS R are horizontal line type and not line & cross types like on DSLRs. (same on Z6/Z7 btw). in certain low contrast situations, it can become a real problem and i already got the AF fail red box on EOS R while my 5D nailed the shot instantaneously. this is why for me at this point mirrorless isn't yet on par with DSLRs in the most demanding of situations.. 53 minutes ago, Kisaha said: There are a few NANO-USM EF-S lenses that are the fastest and most reliable focusing Canon lenses ever build. That is why, while I do not own a Canon camera, I have purchased the Nano 18-135 to use when renting C100mkII, or others. a few? i've only heard of that 18-135mm & a 70-300mm EF. personally, I'm excited about the upcoming 5 new L series Nano-USM RF lenses to add to the 3 current ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amro Othman Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 For me, the real problem of RS is not the skewed lines during pans but rather the jello effect during handheld or moving car footage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 The AF on the eos r for stills has a hard time in lower light on AI Servo. With it off, it could focus in pretty much full darkness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Here it is.. 26.2 Million Pixels Full Size Sensor Dual pixel CMOS AF DIGIC 8 Continuous shooting performance: 5 frames / sec ISO sensitivity: 100 to 40000 (equivalent to extended ISO: 50, 51200, 102400) Organic EL EVF 3.0 type touch panel variable angle liquid crystal Dual Sensing IS DLO in camera, RAW development in camera, C-RAW compatible Size: 132.5 x 85.0 x 70.0 mm Weight: Approximately 440 g (body only), about 485 g (including batteries?) Kit lens: RF 24 – 105 mm F 4 L IS USM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, Django said: Here it is.. 26.2 Million Pixels Full Size Sensor Dual pixel CMOS AF DIGIC 8 Continuous shooting performance: 5 frames / sec ISO sensitivity: 100 to 40000 (equivalent to extended ISO: 50, 51200, 102400) Organic EL EVF 3.0 type touch panel variable angle liquid crystal Dual Sensing IS DLO in camera, RAW development in camera, C-RAW compatible Size: 132.5 x 85.0 x 70.0 mm Weight: Approximately 440 g (body only), about 485 g (including batteries?) Kit lens: RF 24 – 105 mm F 4 L IS USM This plus the new lenses makes for an interesting option as I can get 95% of my stuff with a mix of F-2.8/4 zooms. I'm not a fan of the R outside of its grip, but if this has full DPAF capabilities in video and 10-bit through HDMI (seems like some of the R's halo features will be stripped, questions is which ones) its potentially a compelling alternative to the a73. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 No word about video specs, maybe they are waiting with the surprise of 1080p only... noplz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 That's the million dollar question, will Canon go the lazy route and just spit out a repackaged 6D2 (most likely scenario) or will they surprise us with that rumored 1.5x 4K crop and C-Log ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 17 minutes ago, Django said: That's the million dollar question, will Canon go the lazy route and just spit out a repackaged 6D2 (most likely scenario) or will they surprise us with that rumored 1.5x 4K crop and C-Log ? I think they will but its more than likely no PDAF in 4k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I'm not sure why everyone is certain it will have 4k? The 6DMk2 doesn't. It would seem this camera is being pitched as a stills camera, not a hybrid. noplz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, DBounce said: I'm not sure why everyone is certain it will have 4k? The 6DMk2 doesn't. It would seem this camera is being pitched as a stills camera, not a hybrid. Because its 2019 ?, not saying I'd be surprised but I'll at least be optimistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, DBounce said: I'm not sure why everyone is certain it will have 4k? The 6DMk2 doesn't. It would seem this camera is being pitched as a stills camera, not a hybrid. Why do you think that? We are not sure at all, as we know Canon, 1080p could be very realistic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Because its 2019 ?, not saying I'd be surprised but I'll at least be optimistic. I'll hold out optimism for the "Pro" version. Hopefully, that will have Canon's new back lit sensor tech with DPAF.... we can dream can't we? 2 minutes ago, liork said: Why do you think that? We are not sure at all, as we know Canon, 1080p could be very realistic... Read the title of the thread ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I know its Canon but it does sound rather goofy to release a non 4K mirrorless in 2019. Especially considering the $600 M50 does 4K. Yeah 4K with no DPAF sounds like a Canon thing they would do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 I will put out my prediction as well.... cause its fun. Its cheaper than the EOS R.... but it will have 4K... only because after the m50, Canon said that they will start incorporating 4K in all their EOS products from there onwards. Don't remember the source, but its floating around on the internet somewhere... Its not going to be better than the EOS R - and its priced that way. So don't expect too much... Editted to add: And, its pretty stupid to have a new mirrorless product thats sitting right in between the EOS R & m50 - its priced that way too.... without 4K in 2019. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 With the M50 having 4k, I think its a pretty safe bet this one will too. With a lower MP sensor hopefully the crop will be less severe than the 5d4/R Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 It must have 4k I demand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Another thing they may do is 4K without ALL-I codec & no C-log / 10bit out. DPAF really should remain. It's Canons crown jewel.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Django said: Another thing they may do is 4K without ALL-I codec & no C-log / 10bit out. DPAF really should remain. It's Canons crown jewel.. It might remain... but not in 4k. I think the "Pro" model will be the one that checks most of the boxes. It would be nice to have a mirrorless 1DXMK3 with a edit friendly codec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 It’s Canon. It will be 4K without DPAF. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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