CyclingBen Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Hi Gals and Guys. I've been trying to match the NX1 to the Fuji Eterna profile in camera for a couple weeks and think I finally have it dialed in. Here are my settings: OLED color - ON Picture Wizard - Custom Color Green .95 Saturation -3 Sharpness -10 Contrast 0 Hue -6 Using FCPX and color match I'm able to get it to match perfectly in a click or two. If anyone has other ideas or better settings I'd be happy to try them and post results. Kisaha, Geoff CB and Francesco Tasselli 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Why the OLED color ---> ON? Do you know its significance? This is something that I never use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnewxcv Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Kisaha said: Why the OLED color ---> ON? Do you know its significance? This is something that I never use. I thought OLED color only changed the way the screen displayed color, not affecting recorded video. Correct me if I am wrong. .95 green, -3 sat, -10 sharpness are all pretty common practices. Hue -6 is new to me. Since you are using picture wizard, I assume you are in normal mode and not GammaDR. Are you using a color checker? How are you comparing the nx1 to the fuji? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclingBen Posted February 17, 2019 Author Share Posted February 17, 2019 Yes normal gamma. I also thought the OLED setting only applies to the monitor but it seems to shift saturation in the actual recording to my eye and also to the monitors in FCPX. For the Hue, I had never adjusted it prior to trying to match the two cameras, but found the eterna profile to shift much cooler than the NX1. I’m sure the same could be accomplished with altering the white balance as well. I think the Fuji cameras have comparable white balance to the NX1 but it trends a little cooler. overall I love the match I found. I haven’t tried matching in premiere or davinci yet. I’d use it on a job for work if I had to. Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnewxcv Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, CyclingBen said: Yes normal gamma. I also thought the OLED setting only applies to the monitor but it seems to shift saturation in the actual recording to my eye and also to the monitors in FCPX. For the Hue, I had never adjusted it prior to trying to match the two cameras, but found the eterna profile to shift much cooler than the NX1. I’m sure the same could be accomplished with altering the white balance as well. I think the Fuji cameras have comparable white balance to the NX1 but it trends a little cooler. overall I love the match I found. I haven’t tried matching in premiere or davinci yet. I’d use it on a job for work if I had to. I will take a test tomorrow with oled on/off with a color checker and see if I can determine a difference. Will post back in 24hrs. Francesco Tasselli and Marco Tecno 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnewxcv Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 I can confirm that turning OLED Color on/off creates a visible difference when shooting a colorchecker. Attached a photo of each. Looks like a bit higher saturation overall, but it is also not linearly increased for each color. Rather, blues seem to be a bit higher in saturation with OLED color on, and the magenta trace seems to pull true to magenta, while the magenta trace pulls slightly to the blue side of magenta with OLED color off. Also, my wallpaper, which I consider to be in the white family but containing some color looks much more yellow/warmer with OLED color on. However, the white squares on the color checker are almost identical between on and off, so white balance isn't really affected directly. oled off.bmp oled on.bmp Francesco Tasselli, Kisaha and KnightsFan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar_kevin Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 It's crazy but awesome how much stuff can affect the image on this camera. I always thought the OLED Color only tied to the LCD screen as well. Thanks for putting the work in on this one, I'll have to check it out. I don't have a fuji, but being able to match Eterna is pretty awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclingBen Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share Posted February 21, 2019 Nice work @mnewxcv. I really didn't think the OLED changed anything either until I just started willy nilly changing every single setting I could think of. It's not a 100% perfect match, but very close. Thanks for doing the more complete test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Tecno Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Very interesting finding! This camera is a treasure even after more than 4 years! Francesco Tasselli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtJTMarsh Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 thank you so much for this, quick question, can i save it for auto mode as well? seems like i can only use for manual mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclingBen Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 In full auto mode you have to use the default Samsung settings. You can use "P" / Program mode and use the custom color profiles and still have the camera auto set the shutter speed, F stop and ISO. Sunscreen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtJTMarsh Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 thank you. i was using it in manual which also works, program will work better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 2/14/2019 at 1:42 AM, CyclingBen said: Hi Gals and Guys. I've been trying to match the NX1 to the Fuji Eterna profile in camera for a couple weeks and think I finally have it dialed in. Here are my settings: OLED color - ON Picture Wizard - Custom Color Green .95 Saturation -3 Sharpness -10 Contrast 0 Hue -6 Using FCPX and color match I'm able to get it to match perfectly in a click or two. If anyone has other ideas or better settings I'd be happy to try them and post results. Great work on this. Also a interesting discovery about OLED Color Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 15, 2019 Administrators Share Posted June 15, 2019 It's exactly what the NX1 needs, tones down the greens and over-sharpening. The great thing is, with the hack and Gamma DR you can stick it at ISO 800 and rarely need to go higher, you just push the exposure in post. Really cleans up the image and stops the overzealous in-camera noise reduction from muddying it up. Never shoot at ISO 6400 on the NX1, always at 800 and boost it in post! Kisaha, jean_pantalon and arourke 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CyclingBen Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share Posted August 29, 2019 Had an emotional moment this morning... finally broke the seal on my like new NX1 to install the hack because my workhorse camera after hiking for a week in Austria started acting up (after stopping recording it would freeze and when shooting on the medium burst mode it would continuously write to the card). Glad I made this thread because I never wrote down my settings. Hopefully it’s just a memory card issue, but I kinda doubt it. At any rate, 4+ years of rock solid performance in all conditions is nothing to sneeze at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam_andy Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Hello, I am still brand new but I found this video and some info that might be helpful to get a log like look from the Nx1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam_andy Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 4:57 PM, Andrew Reid said: It's exactly what the NX1 needs, tones down the greens and over-sharpening. The great thing is, with the hack and Gamma DR you can stick it at ISO 800 and rarely need to go higher, you just push the exposure in post. Really cleans up the image and stops the overzealous in-camera noise reduction from muddying it up. Never shoot at ISO 6400 on the NX1, always at 800 and boost it in post! I know u am super late to this camera but I just got one, and I've been learning a lot from all of you all who paved the way. I have found maybe one reason why the sensor is 1) very sharp a 2) very saturated on greens. It seems that the color filter is not a standard RGB Bayer filter/pattern but a RGBG color pattern that allows the camera to record more detail (if you look at MTF charts of lenses, the ones who can capture green better are usually the sharpest through out the range). I have also found in the video above that the settings suggested in my last post are a great way to create a LOG profile in the Custom picture wizard area. Anyway, I was looking at Vimeo with a link for a video setup guide for Log on the NX1 but the link no longer works and I can't seem to find that page/guide. Anyone have it available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev7en Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 10/26/2019 at 4:58 AM, iam_andy said: I know u am super late to this camera but I just got one, and I've been learning a lot from all of you all who paved the way. I have found maybe one reason why the sensor is 1) very sharp a 2) very saturated on greens. It seems that the color filter is not a standard RGB Bayer filter/pattern but a RGBG color pattern that allows the camera to record more detail (if you look at MTF charts of lenses, the ones who can capture green better are usually the sharpest through out the range). I have also found in the video above that the settings suggested in my last post are a great way to create a LOG profile in the Custom picture wizard area. Anyway, I was looking at Vimeo with a link for a video setup guide for Log on the NX1 but the link no longer works and I can't seem to find that page/guide. Anyone have it available? It is very interesting pick, thanks. How can get more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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