Adam Kuźniar Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Blackmagic Design today announced URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2, a second generation URSA Mini Pro camera featuring fully redesigned electronics and a new Super 35mm 4.6K image sensor with 15 stops of dynamic range that combine to support high frame rate shooting at up to 300 frames per second. In addition, URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2 supports Blackmagic RAW and features a new USB-C expansion port for direct recording to external disks. https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/release/20190305-01 Hopefully the price of Ursa Mini Pros G1 will go down now ? tupp, lissa and IronFilm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Yes, always good for business : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ehetyz Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Looks like the logical upgrade path for me. Finally some higher-tier HFR modes. Time to start saving up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Looks great, full sensor 4.6K images up to 120 frames per second is pretty impressive, always loved the image the Ursa pro gives out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 This sensor. With dual 11bit ADC, it behaves similarly to ARRI's ALEV III. ltn4625.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_David Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 looks great and hope it has the same highlight rolloff as a c300 ii . this seems like an elegant menu option and - I hope they included an OLPF - that's the one thing that made me sell my Ursa 4.6ks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Yeah but it is pretty easy to do the Rawlite OLPF on one if you have 500 bucks just laying around! ? https://rawlite.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 But the question is - did they change the color of the ND selector? If not, FS5II is a much better option. Mako Sports, KnightsFan, ade towell and 2 others 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Adam Kuźniar said: Blackmagic Design today announced URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2, a second generation URSA Mini Pro camera featuring fully redesigned electronics and a new Super 35mm 4.6K image sensor with 15 stops of dynamic range that combine to support high frame rate shooting at up to 300 frames per second. In addition, URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2 supports Blackmagic RAW and features a new USB-C expansion port for direct recording to external disks. https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/media/release/20190305-01 Hopefully the price of Ursa Mini Pros G1 will go down now ? Well only addition is 300 fps. I never even used 120fps on the ump. So for me the g2 is not worth the upgrade. Just now, Anaconda_ said: But the question is - did they change the color of the ND selector? If not, FS5II is a much better option. What, I would even prefer my pocket 4k over the fs5 ii. lissa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I bet original 4.6k prices are going to drop somewhat IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 For sure they will since this one is the same price as the original cost yesterday. 4 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: What, I would even prefer my pocket 4k over the fs5 ii. It was a joke. BMD have upgraded a lot here, Sony changed the colour of the ND filter selector from silver to black. All the internal stuff stayed the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Anaconda_ said: For sure they will since this one is the same price as the original cost yesterday. It was a joke. BMD have upgraded a lot here, Sony changed the colour of the ND filter selector from silver to black. All the internal stuff stayed the same. Oh had no clue ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currensheldon Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Holy smokes. 150fps in DCI 4K - Geeesh. They're in Red's territory now. Pretty amazing at that price point. Black Magic is going all out the last couple of years, from cameras to codecs to editing to color grading. You could just use Black Magic products from start to finish. Black Magic Raw is one of the best things to come out since RedCode Raw and it was also just announced that it is available in the Pocket 4K. Ursa Mini Pro G2 + Pocket 4K is a pretty great combination for A and B Cam and combined they are cheaper than a single C200 or C300 or FS7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Higher frame rates is cool, though I am more curious about the new sensor. I wonder if it'll be better in low light. I recall the 120fps on the Ursa mini 4.6k wasn't too great. Maybe its improved on this one. Looks like a very interesting camera tho. tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Looks like a nicely performing cinema/broadcast camera. Quote Interchangeable lens mount with EF mount included as standard. Optional PL, B4 and F lens mounts available separately. The F-mount is interesting. The B4 mount suggests a crop sensor mode (but there might also be magnification optics in their B4 mount). Perhaps, in regards to S35, Blackmagic is starting to think a little outside of the EF/PL box. However, from the photo it appears that the internal NDs are permanent and this is yet another S35 camera from Blackmagic with an interchangeable lens mount that will not accept lenses and adapters requiring shallow mounts. So, there are countless nice, interesting lenses that cannot be used with this camera, nor will interchangeable FF-to-S35 focal reducers work with this camera and nor will special adapters (such as tilt/swing/shift, continuously variable ND, etc.) work. If this camera has a crop sensor mode, it would be great if it could accept M4/3 and C-mount lenses. On the other hand, @lucabutera's internal Magicbooster insert might work inside the camera's EF mount, even with the camera's internal NDs. maxmizer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I really like the image and the high frame rates look compelling - but I was put off the previous model because it was very heavy. I'd really love to see a version of this camera where they've seriously reduced the weight. Kisaha, IronFilm, andrgl and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 4 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Higher frame rates is cool, though I am more curious about the new sensor. I wonder if it'll be better in low light. I recall the 120fps on the Ursa mini 4.6k wasn't too great. Maybe its improved on this one. Looks like a very interesting camera tho. It was vastly improved on the ursa mini pro with firmware updates. John Brawley says the g2 is iso wise the same as g1, only difference is the +300fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: It was vastly improved on the ursa mini pro with firmware updates. John Brawley says the g2 is iso wise the same as g1, only difference is the +300fps. Ah oh well, still a nice camera. There is an Ursa mini 4.6k on ebay right now for just above $3000. If this drives the prices of them down more that would be cool. Though if the only upgrade is 300fps I don't see it being that big of a killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwhitz Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 It's like BM can read my mind. I was just thinking the other day... "Man, if only the 4.6k Ursa had 120fps (or even 96fps) in 4k I'd just get one instead of waiting around for the Pocket4k..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Ah oh well, still a nice camera. There is an Ursa mini 4.6k on ebay right now for just above $3000. If this drives the prices of them down more that would be cool. Though if the only upgrade is 300fps I don't see it being that big of a killer. 4.6k 120fps is the biggest upgrade imo.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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