mirekti Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 So there’s been an ongoing thread on Z Cam Facebook group related to their Fall to be released S35 camera. The company is really trying to get customers’ input regarding the features. There’s also a rumor it would be presented on NAB. 14+ usable DR, 6k 60 fps, probably EF and M43 mounts will be available. Anyone here excited about it? Emanuel and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pureaxis Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I'm more exciting about their Full Frame camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsFan Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I'll let you know whether I'm excited after they announce the price! But even if it is out of my budget, I hope they make an absolute killer camera. I like their approach to hardware and software design, and how well engaged they are with their community. Emanuel and webrunner5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 If it's M43 mount I'll definitely be interested. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Yes. Interested. If it is 6k apsc size sensor does that translate to 4k for a 4/3 crop? If so and it is not much more then their current camera then that provides a lot of options lens wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3 hours ago, newfoundmass said: If it's M43 mount I'll definitely be interested. Same, fingers crossed for another S35 MFT camera! 2 hours ago, majoraxis said: Yes. Interested. If it is 6k apsc size sensor does that translate to 4k for a 4/3 crop? If so and it is not much more then their current camera then that provides a lot of options lens wise. Exactly, you could use 4K with *ALL* MFT lenses, and you could use 6K with "many" MFT lenses and nearly *all* adapted lenses on the MFT mount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 3,995 USD Kisaha and KnightsFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Amazing. A few observations. 26mgpxls, X-T3 sensor? XLR and Timecode thingies optional = more money. No ND filter. CFast media = very expensive, do not see SD cards anywhere. In Europe, with the XLR and TMCD will be close, or more, to 5000€, reaching Ursa Mini Pro and FS5ii and maybe EVA territory. It will be a tough sell, but we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexTrinder96 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Kisaha said: No ND filter. They're working on implementing ND filters! I expect a few changes before the official release! Looks like they'll have locking EF mount... (PL and MFT also) Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrooklynDan Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Another 2.5mm in vertical sensor height. 18mm = full anamorphic aperture. Also SDI output for monitoring. HDMI is not a pro connection. NOT. A. PRO. CONNECTION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 hours ago, AlexTrinder96 said: 3,995 USD Ouch! Double the Z Cam E2 price At this price point I'd probably instead just wait to get lucky with a secondhand Panasonic EVA1 or Sony FS7 2 hours ago, Kisaha said: XLR and Timecode thingies optional = more money. My guess is the audio cable needed will be the same as for the Arri Alexa Mini And probably what is needed for TC is the same as just got announced for TC with the Z Cam E2 KnightsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsFan Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, IronFilm said: Ouch! Double the Z Cam E2 price At this price point I'd probably instead just wait to get lucky with a secondhand Panasonic EVA1 or Sony FS7 You could get an XT3 and the original z cam e2 with a speedbooster for that price. Or a panasonic s1 and a Pocket 4k. We will see how many features z cam packs in to make it worth that cost. They have been steadily adding to the e2 so maybe they have more up their sleeve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien416 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Let's hear about anamorphic modes and rolling shutter ? But even in the current state, it's kind of tempting. However getting it in Europe looks like an adventure of its own so I guess I'll pass until they have proper distribution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, IronFilm said: My guess is the audio cable needed will be the same as for the Arri Alexa Mini And probably what is needed for TC is the same as just got announced for TC with the Z Cam E2 Eric Chen on Facebook from Z Cam confirmed my guesses as correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Even though the price is higher than I would like, it seems to make sense with 6k 60p for $4k with 14 stops of dynamic range with RAW 14bit video and XLR audio in etc. If it is really good in low light with a small camera body, then it competes nicely with the USRA Mini Pro G2, if they can add internal ND. I could see even large productions using this as a crash camera, b-camera or a-camera for low light and for lower budget production as a-camera. There couldn't be a better time to be a digital film maker when it comes to purchasing a camera that is good enough for almost everything you could want to film... except say, two years from now when all of these great cameras are available used at a discount after the new 8k versions come out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, majoraxis said: Even though the price is higher than I would like, it seems to make sense with 6k 60p for $4k with 14 stops of dynamic range with RAW 14bit video and XLR audio in etc. If it is really good in low light with a small camera body, then it competes nicely with the USRA Mini Pro G2, if they can add internal ND. I could see even large productions using this as a crash camera, b-camera or a-camera for low light and for lower budget production as a-camera. There couldn't be a better time to be a digital film maker when it comes to purchasing a camera that is good enough for almost everything you could want to film... except say, two years from now when all of these great cameras are available used at a discount after the new 8k versions come out... With 14bit ADC, the actual usable DR won’t be 14EV, you just get very clean blacks that get you nice numbers shooting charts. This is one of the reasons Fuji never went with 16bit on XT3 and GFX100. But if they could properly implement DOL HDR mode on this IMX571 sensor with 2 ADC readout, it would have great potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Internal ND's are a must. Would be nice if they threw in an SD card slot as well for lower bitrate recording. The awesome thing about this camera is the recording options. RAW as well as H264 and H265, and Prores(I assume they will put in Prores as well?) 4k 120fps would have been a really smart move even if it means making the camera larger. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 54 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Internal ND's are a must. Would be nice if they threw in an SD card slot as well for lower bitrate recording. The awesome thing about this camera is the recording options. RAW as well as H264 and H265, and Prores(I assume they will put in Prores as well?) 4k 120fps would have been a really smart move even if it means making the camera larger. The sensor itself is not capable of 4K 120P. Unlike the original E2, this uses a stills-oriented sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 1 hour ago, majoraxis said: Even though the price is higher than I would like, it seems to make sense with 6k 60p for $4k with 14 stops of dynamic range with RAW 14bit video and XLR audio in etc Where does it say "raw"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, Kisaha said: Where does it say "raw"? says 12 bit and 14 bit RAW 37 minutes ago, androidlad said: The sensor itself is not capable of 4K 120P. Unlike the original E2, this uses a stills-oriented sensor. unfortunate Still in comparison with an EVA1 its $2500 cheaper and does internal RAW as well as maybe prores and at a higher resolution. The XT3 sensor is really nice if its the one being used. Wish it was $1000 cheaper but for what you get its really not a bad price. Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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