Patrick B. Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 A user on Dvxuser stated that the EOS R only would 60i or p in 1080p over HDMI. Can someone confirm if that’s true? Seems rather odd. http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?362586-Canon-EOS-R-no-23-98-HD-from-HDMI-Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 So I just got an EOS R and can confirm that, as ridiculous as it sounds, when you hook up HDMI to a Ninja V, and have the EOS R set to 1080p, the frame rate stays locked at 59.94 FPS no matter what you set it to internally. The one exception is if you enable 24 FPS which does change the HDMI output. Note that this is true 24 FPS and not 23.98. 4K doesn’t have this limitation and I can’t understand why FHD does. ?♂️ KnightsFan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Lawl Kisaha and webrunner5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Every day a new surprise from Canon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 So you have 24p & 60p.. what other frame rates where you looking for, 30p? The real issue imo is that FHD external is 8-bit only so I don’t really see a point in recording FHD externally unless you really need ProRes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Well, really I think 24 will be fine so I’m good with the limitation. I never use 30/29.98 but was just really surprised you couldn’t use the 23.98. It just seemed rather arbitrary, but as I’ve used Sony’s and Panasonic’s I know every camera has sometimes baffling quirks that you just have to accept as part of their personality Yeah, agree it’s a shame on the FHD 8-bit. My intention was to record direct to a LUT on the Ninja V for extra quick turn around on YouTube or short social media stuff where I didn’t want to drop it into an NLE. One thing the EOS R DOES do that the A7 III and Z6 don’t, is you can record to HDMI while still having full face tracking AF and remote controlling the camera via Wi-Fi. The A7 III comes close, but disables face tracking, and the Z6 just flat out won’t allow remote control with HDMI output. I have a hunch the S1 might allow this combination too, but need to verify. webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Django said: So you have 24p & 60p.. what other frame rates where you looking for, 30p? The real issue imo is that FHD external is 8-bit only so I don’t really see a point in recording FHD externally unless you really need ProRes. To minimize compression artifacts in the tailing edge of motion? At least until you have had a chance to do any post-processing/editing you might want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 53 minutes ago, Mokara said: To minimize compression artifacts in the tailing edge of motion? At least until you have had a chance to do any post-processing/editing you might want to do. EOS R already offers internal ALL-I codecs ranging from 90-180Mbps for FHD & 480Mbps in 4K which basically equates to a middle ProRes codec as far as motion.. 10-bit 422 however is worth going external imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Django said: EOS R already offers internal ALL-I codecs ranging from 90-180Mbps for FHD & 480Mbps in 4K which basically equates to a middle ProRes codec as far as motion.. 10-bit 422 however is worth going external imo. Ok, so to minimize compression artifacts resulting from the use of ALL-I then. Anything with a lot of detail has to give up something to fit in the bandwidth, and detail is the sacrifice you make with ALL-I. Which you do not want if you are doing editing later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Mokara said: Ok, so to minimize compression artifacts resulting from the use of ALL-I then. Anything with a lot of detail has to give up something to fit in the bandwidth, and detail is the sacrifice you make with ALL-I. Which you do not want if you are doing editing later. ALL-I is an Intra Frame codec just like ProRes. It’s the top choice for minimizing compression artifacts & editing ( unlike XAVC-S for example which is Long GOP) so I’m not sure what your point is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimithy Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 New to external monitors / recorders... Can you still monitor your 23.98 FPS signal using the Atomos / other on camera monitors to take advantage of Zebras, Waveforms, etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 On 1/29/2020 at 4:19 PM, Jimithy said: New to external monitors / recorders... Can you still monitor your 23.98 FPS signal using the Atomos / other on camera monitors to take advantage of Zebras, Waveforms, etc? Unless the recent firmware has changed things it would only output a 23.98 signal in 4K. In HD you’d have to go with 24 FPS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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