kaylee Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 heeyyy guizee sooo im trynna figure out how to do a bunch of dolly shots without a dolly...! i CAN use a dolly on tracks if i have to, BUT that makes stuff wildly complicated for what im planning, you see... > im designing a short where almost all of the shots are dolly pull backs in different locations. the camera is moving directly away from the subject in space, perpendicular to it, right? we've all seen this a million times so, im looking at options like sliders and idk where to start rlly, but please keep in mind that whatever devices i use have to stay out of the shot based on the movement described above ^^^ any suggestions yall??? keeping this light, quick, mobile, etc would be great, but I want nice smooth stable dolly-like moves, otherwise between gimbals and post stabilization i wouldnt even worry abt it i have no idea what my options rlly are. how would you go about doing something like this indie style in 2019? zoom lens or zoom in post isnt gonna work on this one, i want the camera moving in real space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kieley Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 I guess a slider for short moves, for longer tracking, maybe a gimbal + someone pulling the camera operator in a wheel chair? A wheel chair was my poor man's dolly back in the day. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matt Kieley said: maybe a gimbal + someone pulling the camera operator in a wheel chair? ive done that too ? minus the gimbal. at the time it worked pretty well ? nah i want this to be professional af tho thats the thing. like a spielberg move. its the aesthetic of this entire short so its super important, NOT just one shot u kno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Kieley Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Just now, kaylee said: ive done that too ? minus the gimbal. at the time it worked pretty well ? nah i want this to be professional af tho thats the thing. like a spielberg move. its the aesthetic of this entire short so its super important, NOT just one shot u kno Well then I guess you better set up those tracks and do it for real. If it's really important, then it's worth doing right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 yeah... hmm idk im thinkin maybe one of them fancy motorized sliders could work...? ? then the move could be timed the same over and over... that would be "dope" @webrunner5 as long as the slider itself isnt in my shot, that would work right...? edit: omg these things are borderline robots and im scared of/hate robots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thebrothersthre3 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Wheelchair or cart plus gimbal and post stabilization. As long as the ground you are shooting on is decent you'll get dolly like shots that way. Otherwise not sure of an easier way other than a real dolly. Obviously a slider can work for certain shots though. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 best thing now is to use a hoverboard or one of these new tech things. quick exemple but there are so many. time to test your balance ? funny i just got that in my mailbox after writing my message https://www.came-tv.com/collections/steadicam/products/came-tv-defiance-versatile-rickshaw-with-video-stabilizer-single-arm-22-54?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=nl+Defiance+05.20.19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, thephoenix said: funny i just got that in my mailbox after writing my message https://www.came-tv.com/collections/steadicam/products/came-tv-defiance-versatile-rickshaw-with-video-stabilizer-single-arm-22-54?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=nl+Defiance+05.20.19 OMFG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, kaylee said: OMFG i agree so fuc...g expensive for just a pair of wheels and a stab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 that is seriously one of the most hideous things ive ever seen ? webrunner5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 and wait for shipping cost ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 omg ? better check amazon prime ? that thing looks like a camera from silent hill thephoenix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonim Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Quasi dolly shooting is sole reason I'm hesitating not to sell my fourth gimbal (and fourth attempt to make some love for it)... kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted May 21, 2019 Author Share Posted May 21, 2019 @anonim whats been up? you havent liked it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonim Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 52 minutes ago, kaylee said: @anonim whats been up? you havent liked it? Not, quite contrary, I've found my last one is best of all (Mozza Aircross vs various Ziyun and one Feyutech)... but obviously I'm not a person for using gimbal so much, I tend to appreciate more some sort of (little bit heavily) rigged camera for achieving more natural stabilization. But, as I wrote, I'll keep gimbal for quasi dolly (revealing or side tracking or up-stairs) shots that I've found really could be satisfactory replacement (at least for my usage) for several-seconds-lasting dolly movements. (But if you insist, maybe you can use some baby rolling chairs and put camera on it, or shopping basket with wheels kaylee and thephoenix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 5 hours ago, kaylee said: that is seriously one of the most hideous things ive ever seen ? do you mean the price or the rickshaw ?? kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 Are there any trees you can hook on? Can't remember the name, but there is a cable thingy you can run and the camera slides on it. Not that expensive or hard to set up, and works great on uneven terrain. You could build one yourself I would think. Like this one. https://cinemotiongear.com/blogs/news/videos-of-the-cord-slider-mini kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregormannschaft Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 We have a Wally Dolly at work that is an absolute breeze to setup, and can get you a solid 6-9ft of smooth movement. Might be worth looking into for rental, it’s relatively easy to transport. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted May 21, 2019 Super Members Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, webrunner5 said: Are there any trees you can hook on? Can't remember the name, but there is a cable thingy you can run and the camera slides on it. Not that expensive or hard to set up, and works great on uneven terrain. You I think its this one https://www.wiralcam.com/ webrunner5 and kaylee 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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