IronFilm Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 So I'm going to be a camera operator for a shoot tomorrow with 2x a7Smk2, and a X-T3 for the wide shot (none of these cameras btw are my own, I'm just a cam op), which will be live cut between during the event itself. Any tips when it comes to matching these together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 6:54 AM, IronFilm said: So I'm going to be a camera operator for a shoot tomorrow with 2x a7Smk2, and a X-T3 for the wide shot (none of these cameras btw are my own, I'm just a cam op), which will be live cut between during the event itself. Any tips when it comes to matching these together? Expand Have no clue, but I am interested of how you are going to live cut? I am searching for a similar setup for future events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 oof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted June 7, 2019 Super Members Share Posted June 7, 2019 What are they switching it with? Blackmagic ATEMs have a pretty comprehensive live colour corrector built in. A neutral standard colour profile and manual white balance off a card as a starting point obviously ! Geoff CB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 10:15 AM, Kisaha said: Have no clue, but I am interested of how you are going to live cut? Expand Not me doing it, all I know is he has rented something for it. On 6/7/2019 at 10:55 AM, BTM_Pix said: What are they switching it with? Blackmagic ATEMs have a pretty comprehensive live colour corrector built in. Expand BMD ATEM was my first guess! And I asked him already, all I know is that it is not that. (he wasn't too sure himself what it was? We'll find out soon tomorrow!) Kisaha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Ha ha, I don't envy this at all for a variety of reasons. Neither of those cameras are ideal for this kind of work due to battery life, though I'm guessing they'll be rigged up. A lot depends on the switcher and whether it's capable of tweaking the colors for each input. Once you've custom white balanced everything and have them using similar picture profiles, you'll probably want to head into the camera options and tweak the settings so that they match as best as you can. Hopefully then the switcher can fine tune it, cause I'm not sure how close you'll be able to get things just through the more broader image profile settings. I've avoided mixing camera brands for live switching like the plague for this reason. Even if you can't get the same camera for each angle, you're in the ball park as long as they're the same brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Both of their standard profiles look similar if they have the same white balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 4:16 PM, thebrothersthre3 said: Both of their standard profiles look similar if they have the same white balance. Expand You sure about that? I've never used them together, but Sony colors in the A7Sii aren't very good. Wasn't until the A7iii that I saw improvement in Sony's color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted June 7, 2019 Super Members Share Posted June 7, 2019 Its a pity it doesn't do picture profile versions as well as RAW but the Dpreview test scene shows even in RAW there will be work https://***URL removed***/reviews/image-comparison?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=sony_a7sii&attr13_1=fujifilm_xt3&attr13_2=apple_iphonex&attr13_3=apple_iphonex&attr15_0=jpeg&attr15_1=jpeg&attr15_2=jpeg&attr15_3=jpeg&attr16_0=100&attr16_1=160&attr16_2=32&attr16_3=32&normalization=full&widget=1&x=-0.0523171817243824&y=0.6944350801054903 newfoundmass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 4:38 PM, newfoundmass said: You sure about that? I've never used them together, but Sony colors in the A7Sii aren't very good. Wasn't until the A7iii that I saw improvement in Sony's color. Expand yeah I was thinking of the A73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 8, 2019 Author Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/7/2019 at 3:19 PM, newfoundmass said: Ha ha, I don't envy this at all for a variety of reasons. Neither of those cameras are ideal for this kind of work due to battery life, though I'm guessing they'll be rigged up. Expand Yup, all three on tripods, each with a USB powerbank. On 6/7/2019 at 3:19 PM, newfoundmass said: A lot depends on the switcher and whether it's capable of tweaking the colors for each input. Expand Nope, looks like it was a pretty old switcher we were using. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 On 6/8/2019 at 2:08 AM, IronFilm said: Nope, looks like it was a pretty old switcher we were using. Expand How'd everything come out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 What switcher? What connections and how'd you recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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