Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 4, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 4, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 1:53 PM, Andrew Reid said: If you can fine one consumer CCD camera from the past that actually looks cinematic, I'll eat my forum, and you'll win this challenge. Challenge accepted. I very much doubt that you'll need to get your knife and fork ready though! kye and webrunner5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 4, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 4, 2019 £12 change not bad, time to spend that on a wide angle adapter BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 LoL, he can probably get one for that money for a camera that old. I am not feeling good about this Challenge anymore. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, webrunner5 said: ...I am not feeling good about this Challenge anymore. ? Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 4, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 4, 2019 Because he's going to have to hand his camera to somebody? Only kidding, sure you won't be I like the suggestion by the way from BTM that the winner of the vote should shoot something with the last place person's camera when he receives it. I have another suggestion... maybe they hand it back to the poor guy someday later so they feel at least a bit less bad?! And I would like the winner to perhaps pass on some shooting tips to them, in a little letter when they return it. What do you guys think? mkabi, kye and heart0less 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 This should be an interesting challenge. I have a feeling that the person who finds and uses a 4K camera will do well with the members vote... even if BTM’s Flip Video footage is way more cinematic... resolution will go a long way and probably result in arguments regarding cinematic and mojo being made up phrases because they aren’t quantifiable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 4, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 4, 2019 Maybe there should be more than one public vote. One in the category of pixel peeping image quality... best resolution, best dynamic range, etc, etc. And one judging the talent behind the camera? Because sometimes people don't focus on both at once mkabi and kye 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 4, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 4, 2019 I found a used version of a camera that I already own today for £200. I really didn't know the score about whether that makes mine eligible but I doubt it so I passed. You'll be pleased to know I managed to park my inherent devious tendencies out of respect for the spirit of the competition and DIDN'T do a deal with the shop to buy it and return it 10 seconds later with a 10% handling charge so I'd have a receipt for one and then use my own! kye and Grimor 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 5, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 5, 2019 On 7/1/2019 at 2:53 PM, Andrew Reid said: If you can fine one consumer CCD camera from the past that actually looks cinematic, I'll eat my forum, and you'll win this challenge. So I had a quick go with the £28 CCD camera yesterday and managed to get a film look out of it. Unfortunately the particular film it looks like is the Zapruder one 19 hours ago, mercer said: This should be an interesting challenge. I have a feeling that the person who finds and uses a 4K camera will do well with the members vote... even if BTM’s Flip Video footage is way more cinematic... resolution will go a long way and probably result in arguments regarding cinematic and mojo being made up phrases because they aren’t quantifiable. Yeah, after looking at stuff I shot yesterday even on the lesser of the two evil cameras, I'm now regretting not giving in to my darker side and "buying" that 4K camera I'm also regretting not noticing the auto ISO was set to ON which as I had a vari-ND on was merrily ramping up the ISO to counteract every reduction I was doing. Every shot before I noticed it (which was about 70% of the total) has a swarm of angry red and green mosquitos buzzing around in it. Trek of Joy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart0less Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 3 hours ago, BTM_Pix said: I'm also regretting not noticing the auto ISO was set to ON which as I had a vari-ND on was merrily ramping up the ISO to counteract every reduction I was doing. Every shot before I noticed it (which was about 70% of the total) has a swarm of angry red and green mosquitos buzzing around in it. You're lucky to have manual controls in video, though. I can't change a damn thing! BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 5, 2019 Author Administrators Share Posted July 5, 2019 Yes it's ok to use something off your shelf if you see it / find it for £200 or less. It's proving it that's the more tricky part as the deal may not be around when it comes to reveal what you used. I'd say a photo of the camera in the store next to the price tag would suffice. The real crux of the challenge is to make something much worse than 4k look good though. Much, much worse See you have grappled that challenge admirably so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 5, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 5, 2019 32 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Yes it's ok to use something off your shelf if you see it / find it for £200 or less. It's proving it that's the more tricky part as the deal may not be around when it comes to reveal what you used. I'd say a photo of the camera in the store next to the price tag would suffice. The real crux of the challenge is to make something much worse than 4k look good though. Much, much worse See you have grappled that challenge admirably so far. I was hoping to score enough points in the shopping section to offset the lack of them in the actual creative bit! heart0less, mkabi, webrunner5 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaa123jc Posted July 16, 2019 Share Posted July 16, 2019 Is all hack not permitted? Or just Magic Lantern? Just saw some very cheap cameras at local stores. And what a fun challenge it is! kye and majoraxis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 The YI M1 mirrorless MFT camera with 12-40mm lens is now on sale for $150 (the original price was $499). The technical specs are: 20MP Micro Four Thirds CMOS Sony IMX269 sensor 3-inch LCD touchscreen 5fps ISO range: 100 - 25.600 4k/30P video Wi-Fi, Bluetooth built-in https://photorumors.com/2019/07/19/here-is-a-4k-20mp-mirrorless-mft-interchangeable-lens-camera-with-12-40mm-lens-for-150/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 10 hours ago, buggz said: The YI M1 mirrorless MFT camera with 12-40mm lens is now on sale for $150 (the original price was $499). The technical specs are: 20MP Micro Four Thirds CMOS Sony IMX269 sensor 3-inch LCD touchscreen 5fps ISO range: 100 - 25.600 4k/30P video Wi-Fi, Bluetooth built-in https://photorumors.com/2019/07/19/here-is-a-4k-20mp-mirrorless-mft-interchangeable-lens-camera-with-12-40mm-lens-for-150/ Video quality is not that good unfortunately. Last firmware luckaly gives manual control in video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar_kevin Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I almost bought one of those for this but wanted 24p so I went for another oddity Still a great deal to get that 20mp M43 sensor though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shell64 Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 Wish the z cam e1 didn’t sell out. It got hacked to shoot at 100+mbps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 I'm ready to ship one of my cameras. Luckily I have all these boxes left over from buying vintage lenses.. lol ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted July 30, 2019 Share Posted July 30, 2019 1 hour ago, kye said: I'm ready to ship one of my cameras. Luckily I have all these boxes left over from buying vintage lenses.. lol ??? What ? you haven't even lost...... yet ? kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shell64 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 On 7/30/2019 at 7:08 AM, kye said: I'm ready to ship one of my cameras. Luckily I have all these boxes left over from buying vintage lenses.. lol ??? Are you referring to the z cam e1 or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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