The Panasonic S1 codec upgrade is out now - update to firmware 1.2 and redeam code

[zerocool22]

3 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I imagine Sigma were not impressed in the slightest at the stunt Leica pulled with the MC21. I know I wasn't!

 

 

Well Im hoping on a new sigma line, a true ART line. Not sure why sigma called it the ART line in the first place, you get almost the opposite of ART images out of them. I wish they will bring out a new line, also sharp wide open maybe less sharp then the sigma ART line now, with the same achromatic abboration, which is pretty good on the ART, the coating of the lens Is also great, but with more interesting bokeh. The current ART line is great for corporate, event stuff and all but I feel the current image is quite bland for narrative stuff. 

[BTM_Pix]

20 minutes ago, zerocool22 said:

Well Im hoping on a new sigma line, a true ART line. 

I'm still waiting on them to make a Foveon cinema camera so maybe they can do both !

[omega1978]

In italy you have to pay for the key, and they don't know the release date ?. The EU is only there when we have to pay tax...

[Geoff_L]

13 minutes ago, omega1978 said:

In italy you have to pay for the key, and they don't know the release date ?. The EU is only there when we have to pay tax...

Strange decision, it is free here in France.

[omega1978]

28 minutes ago, Geoff_L said:

Strange decision, it is free here in France.

But how you received it?In italy i don't have find a shop that sell the key... 

[Jak234]

in germany they are out of the serial number boxes. ? Should come next week tells Panasonic. Still, i love the company

[Geoff_L]

1 hour ago, omega1978 said:

But how you received it?In italy i don't have find a shop that sell the key... 

I do not have the camera (yet ! I am trying to sell a kidney right now ? ), but I am closely reading about it. From what I understand, the upgrade comes free for every buy until September 30.

You then have to fill in a form, and you later receive a letter. Here is the official page for the promotion + the form : https://offre-lumix-s1.e-odr.fr/fr/?fbclid=IwAR2sz9mtUEs6NWeK1aRt-jzQWyX-WDyHmO8TK1wLf3c8o0_xcjOblspD0Nk

[Cliff Totten]

It seems to me that these reatail upgrade boxes should never be "out of stock" anywhere. Its not like Panasonic us unsure of how many boxes to print and package. Currently, this is nothing more than a 1:1 product for every S1 already sold to date. So, if Panasonic has already sold 3500 cameras world wide, they need to print a bare minimum of 3500 upgrade boxes.

 

If Panasonic knew they sold 5,000 cameras but only printed 3,000 boxes and were sold out...I'd be FURIOUS at Panasonic. 

[ade towell]

17 hours ago, Oliver Daniel said:

Yep, bargain grey import indeed - still worth it if you’re not VAT registered. They are legit as I’ve had a few lenses from them. 

Would you still be able to get the free V-log key if it's grey import, would you be able to claim it via UK offer?

[Trek of Joy]

7 hours ago, Geoff_L said:

Samples here, including comparison with A7iii :

 

 

The DR comparison with the a73 is impressive, I really like the S1's image. Still waiting for the a7s3 and full specs on the S1h before dipping a toe into the L-mount.

Chris

[BTM_Pix]

I don't have an S1 but out of curiosity I downloaded the v1.2 and v1.1 bin files.

I wasn't particularly surprised that they would be different sizes but hadn't expected the v1.2 file to be 4.5x bigger than v1.1....

Upon, erm, closer inspection, v1.2 contains multiple loaders and post boot references which might suggest that there is more to come in terms of additional functionality via additional license fees.

Let the RAW speculation commence

[sanveer]

27 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

I don't have an S1 but out of curiosity I downloaded the v1.2 and v1.1 bin files.

I wasn't particularly surprised that they would be different sizes but hadn't expected the v1.2 file to be 4.5x bigger than v1.1....

Upon, erm, closer inspection, v1.2 contains multiple loaders and post boot references which might suggest that there is more to come in terms of additional functionality via additional license fees.

Let the RAW speculation commence

Or more likely, Firmwares are Common Across systems, like how you found that the GX85 had Cinelike profiles hidden within the menu (which wad probably common for the G85). The S1, S1R and S1H probably have similar menus, and the additional functionality and other fee regarding the same, may be a hidden RAW within the S1H somewhere. Panasonic is waiting to pounce on Sony this time. ?

[Geoff_L]

29 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

I don't have an S1 but out of curiosity I downloaded the v1.2 and v1.1 bin files.

I wasn't particularly surprised that they would be different sizes but hadn't expected the v1.2 file to be 4.5x bigger than v1.1....

Upon, erm, closer inspection, v1.2 contains multiple loaders and post boot references which might suggest that there is more to come in terms of additional functionality via additional license fees.

Let the RAW speculation commence

Oh no... I'm really gonna sell an arm, in addition to my already discounted kidney, in order to get a S1 !!

[Azagey]

Very interesting, but isn't the full frame sensor and full V-log slightly negated by the 150mbps? The 400mbps v-log l from GH5s could possibly be as good if not better in post? 

[BTM_Pix]

54 minutes ago, sanveer said:

Or more likely, Firmwares are Common Across systems, like how you found that the GX85 had Cinelike profiles hidden within the menu (which wad probably common for the G85). The S1, S1R and S1H probably have similar menus, and the additional functionality and other fee regarding the same, may be a hidden RAW within the S1H somewhere. Panasonic is waiting to pounce on Sony this time. ?

Its a different structure with the S1R but along similar lines and yes the point I was (badly) making was that there is possibly more than one upgrade in this firmware that may become available later.

Of course, the additional loaders and post boot pointers could equally be to activate the bricking of the camera routine when people have attempted to hack dodgy serial numbers in to it  

[Andrew Reid]

30 minutes ago, Azagey said:

Very interesting, but isn't the full frame sensor and full V-log slightly negated by the 150mbps? The 400mbps v-log l from GH5s could possibly be as good if not better in post? 

The GH5S 400Mbit is ALL-I, and you need that higher bitrate to maintain the quality in ALL-I, with each frame needing to be compressed independently.

150Mbit V-LOG (with V-Gamut colour science from Cinema Varicam) is Long GOP so you do not need 400Mbit. The compression method is more efficient, so you can use lower data rates.

Will be interesting to compare them nevertheless.

[Andrew Reid]

2 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

I don't have an S1 but out of curiosity I downloaded the v1.2 and v1.1 bin files.

I wasn't particularly surprised that they would be different sizes but hadn't expected the v1.2 file to be 4.5x bigger than v1.1....

Upon, erm, closer inspection, v1.2 contains multiple loaders and post boot references which might suggest that there is more to come in terms of additional functionality via additional license fees.

Let the RAW speculation commence

Wonder if they merged the S1 and S1H firmware?

If it now powers both cameras that would explain the big size!

[BTM_Pix]

3 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Wonder if they merged the S1 and S1H firmware?

If it now powers both cameras that would explain the big size!

It could well be this, as @sanveer suggested too.

I'm currently running a compare on it.

Mind you, if its for 3 cameras, then why would it be 4.5x bigger.....Lets start a "Panasonic About To Launch APS-C Camera" rumour instead  

[Andrew Reid]

Maybe they merged some of the Varicam firmware into it?

Or maybe it just has a really big library or 3rd party tool inside?!

[BTM_Pix]

12 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Maybe they merged some of the Varicam firmware into it?

Or maybe it just has a really big library or 3rd party tool inside?!

I'm hoping its an embedded video of Rick Astley that triggers when you select RAW in the video menu. There is certainly enough space for it in there !