newfoundmass Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 Posted on 43rumors: https://www.43rumors.com/ft5-panasonic-is-developing-a-new-tof-micro-four-thirds-sensor-for-a-new-perfect-autofocus-system/ I got this from a reliable source: Panasonic is working to on their ToF sensor from the Vivo Nex Dual phone to implement it on a new AF system in their MFT line! But I am not sure when it will go live (gh6/7/8) Time of Flight measures accurate distances to subjects, so tap on touchscreen for subject to focus on, get an almost instant ToF reading to distance, quickly move lens focus system to where it needs to be for that distance (no contrast “wobble”, no overshooting, pinpoint accurate video tracking focus, etc). In theory, it beats “hybrid” (ie PDAF + CDAF like in the Sony/Fuji) because it eliminates the need for any back and forward movements that are required by CDAF calculations! It also eliminates PDAF sensor banding that Sony cleverly hides (but Canon and Nikon haven’t mastered the cover up quite as well, it can be seen in shadow recovery). Panasonic will use MFT as testing and maturing grounds for new developments (ToF AF, organic sensors, etc), much like Olympus does for their MFT > medical devices This sounds like the holy grail of autofocus! No PDAF artifacts and superfast autofocus system! Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 So how does it measure? Dual pixel essential does the same thing with its dual phase detect design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I wanted to tell Panasonic how to fix their disappointing autofocus, but they seem to have figured it out on their own. Not bad. I hope they realize that ToF sensors have, ahem, other tricks up their sleeves, and use those for computational photography in ILCs. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 It'll never work webrunner5 and Andrew Reid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: It'll never work Why do u say that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 17, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, sanveer said: Why do u say that? Sorry, was joking. It will work because it does work... sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 And that's the only to bypass the lack of PDAF. And terribly accurately, at much higher speeds. I hope Panasonic incorporates it into the GH6 to begin with. Don't want another generation of slow and jumpy autofocus cameras for video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 The idea of M43 being the testing ground for these kinds of things is kinda exciting and confirms what I, and others, thought about Panasonic using the system to lead the way when it comes to features. For some Full Frame will always be king, but if they can keep M43 small and innovative my interest in the system will remain. Give me the benefits of the smaller sensor, please! Mmmbeats and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 They'll release it with the organic sensor ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 9 hours ago, DBounce said: They'll release it with the organic sensor ? And quantum processor as well. Also as reported from my private source Panasonic working on a breakthough tech of some sort of new generation heatsink that gets minus 273 degrees warped directly from space. To keep quantum processor working and videographers heads cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 I don't see what is so unbelievable about this rumor? I feel Panasonic has been pretty good about delivering on stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 19, 2019 Super Members Share Posted July 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, newfoundmass said: I don't see what is so unbelievable about this rumor? I feel Panasonic has been pretty good about delivering on stuff like this. I'm pretty convinced its doable for them. ntblowz, newfoundmass, sanveer and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 They should consider hiring you tbh BTM_Pix and ntblowz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webrunner5 Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 It has been around awhile. Some Smartphones are using it now. https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/features/what-is-a-time-of-flight-camera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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