Oliver Daniel Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Looks like a direct response to the rapid development of the Z cam cameras. Shame they couldn’t get to 4K 100/120fps. But RAW 6k 60fps for that price is hard to sniff at. Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I don't know if it is an urban legend but I have heard BM have a lot of quality control and reliability issues, so I have to say the Sigma fp looks more interesting to me. It will be interesting to see the price compared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadandreo Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Any word on AF? DPAF, Contrast, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Sid said: Sigma fp looks more interesting to me Especially with the dedicated Teal and Orange mode. https://fstoppers.com/gear/sigma-fp-has-built-teal-and-orange-color-mode-and-its-certainly-eye-catching-395686 Not so much eye catching to me. More I watering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVranic Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Sid said: I don't know if it is an urban legend but I have heard BM have a lot of quality control and reliability issues, so I have to say the Sigma fp looks more interesting to me. It will be interesting to see the price compared. Not really. There are many many owners of BMD systems on this forum. I've been using BMD stuff for a long time and never a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, chadandreo said: Any word on AF? DPAF, Contrast, etc. Guess just contrast detect autofocus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCV Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Any Idea if the P6K is the same beautiful but a bigger sensor as the P4K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abehalpert Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Actually looks like the 6k version has a tad less DR in 3200 mode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cls105 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 BM is using an HDR sensor but doesn’t actually have an HDR mode correct? They’re only using its dual iso capabilities if I’m correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 1 hour ago, JordanWright said: B&H saying they expect avaliability August 12th Which year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New_E Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Undercutting Panasonic and their S1H, although not necessarily a bad thing as competition may drive the S1H price down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, New_E said: Undercutting Panasonic and their S1H, although not necessarily a bad thing as competition may drive the S1H price down... Unlikely that most S1H buyers would take this instead. The S1H is a hybrid, the BM camera is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars Steenhoff Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mokara said: Unlikely that most S1H buyers would take this instead. The S1H is a hybrid, the BM camera is not. Its also a stills camera that shoots dng stills, just don't expect the autofocus to be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lars Steenhoff said: Its also a stills camera that shoots dng stills, just don't expect the autofocus to be great. The S1H will kick the snot out of this thing as a stills camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currensheldon Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Black Magic is doing so awesome things and I do love BM Raw. I find the EF mount disappointing and would have much preferred the RF Mount or L-Mount (if they even have access to those). Though, outside of BM Raw and a bit cheaper of price, there isn't much here that would tempt me over the S1H (which may have some form of raw). S1H will have a flip out screen, should have IBIS, wayyy better battery life, has the dual XLR adapter, better form factor, way better stills camera, better autofocus (assuming the Pocket 6K is a single point, single shot AF), easier to use on gimbal, more lenses available via adapters, full-frame sensor, probably better low light if the S1 is anything to go by, more dynamic range, and a couple of other advantages I'm sure I'm missing. Yes, you can save $1000+ by getting a Pocket 6K, but I think all of the above specifications are worth that and more. Black Magic should have used all of that EF-Mount real estate for an electronic ND filter - that would be game-changing. Still, Black Magic is doing an awesome job releasing some really cool cameras with a gorgeous image and really pushing raw - which is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick B. Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Was hoping they might include a waveform view in the firmware updates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 I'm speechless : ) My future camera purchase... : -) jbCinC_12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dslnc Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Anaconda_ said: Link to specs: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera/techspecs/W-CIN-15 it seems that the Off-speed frame rates aren't windowed like the P4K - i.e. recording 1080p120 is only possible windowed with the P4K I hope the P6K uses the full sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davide Roveri Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, dslnc said: it seems that the Off-speed frame rates aren't windowed like the P4K - i.e. recording 1080p120 is only possible windowed with the P4K I hope the P6K uses the full sensor. The reason why 1080p is not windowed on the P6K is because it only records that mode in ProRes (along with both 4K flavours as well) therefore it captures the full sensor and then downscales it whereas the P4K can do both, BRAW windowed or ProRes downscaled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbCinC_12 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, Emanuel said: I'm speechless : ) My future camera purchase... : -) I'll say! 2020's shaping to be a good year for BMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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