Yurolov Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 https://www.canonrumors.com/here-is-the-canon-cinema-eos-c500-mark-ii/ Canon Cinema EOS C500 Mark II rumored specifications: Full-frame sensor RAW internal recording (both 4K and 2K). 4K is up to 60p, 2K up to 120p. Optional XF-AVC recording in 4:2:2 10 bit (4K up to 60p, 2k up to 120p) User interchangeable lens mount Optional modules with EVF, genlock, timecode, 12G-SDI, etc EF and PL mount available at launch Power supply with BP-A series batteries, an optional module for V-Mount batteries Optional module for 4x XLR inputs Backwards compatibility with EVF-V70, LV-M1 and some other peripherals from previous Cinema EOS cameras New media usage: CFExpress cards for faster readings and writing speed WiFi and IP Streaming capabilities Do you think it will have 24p?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 How many arms and legs will it cost? Katrikura 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Avenger 2.0 said: How many arms and legs will it cost? I would guess around $16 - $19K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I see some Canon fanatics here are already selling their FS5/FS7 cameras for this one. It will be a huge Canon success. sanveer and Mako Sports 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 How much DR though? Looks like a great camera, but the pricepoint is a bit hard to justify for most of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 27, 2019 Administrators Share Posted August 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Yurolov said: RAW internal recording (both 4K and 2K). 4K is up to 60p, 2K up to 120p. Optional XF-AVC recording in 4:2:2 10 bit (4K up to 60p, 2k up to 120p) Something doesn't quite stack up there. On a camera like this, RAW-only isn't going to cut it. Remember that Alexa productions mostly shoot ProRes for the workflow and data size convenience factor, especially TV crews. Optional H.264? LOL give me a break. Fake rumour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 45 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Something doesn't quite stack up there. On a camera like this, RAW-only isn't going to cut it. Remember that Alexa productions mostly shoot ProRes for the workflow and data size convenience factor, especially TV crews. Optional H.264? LOL give me a break. Fake rumour I think specs might not be 100 percent. But the date seems to be confirmed and the image is real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Kisaha said: I see some Canon fanatics here are already selling their FS5/FS7 cameras for this one. It will be a huge Canon success. Seeing as this cam is on a line above the already $10K C300 mk2, I think it is safe to say this will be in the $15-20K zone. So I'm sorry pal but nobody will be selling their FS5/FS7 for a C500 mk2! Not even close to being the same market. If this camera does succeed it'll be in the rental market.. Personally I'd be more interested in a $5-8K RF Cine cam from Canon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currensheldon Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Strange if this is true. Obviously it will have all of the professional inputs/outputs and be Netflix approved and all that, but besides timecode and 2k raw, why would I get this over the C200, which has unbelievable internal raw recording up to 60fps in DCI 4K? Again, the sad thing with Canon is that this now puts a ceiling on the C300 Mark III - how could the next level down camera have 6k or 8k, 120fps in 4k, internal raw, and RF Mount, and still be priced lower than this camera? I guess it will have a Super35mm sensor, but not sure that's as big of a deal if it has all the other specs that the C500 II does not. I had the same reaction when they announced the C700 at $30k. That's it!? If that's all they are putting in a $30k camera, what hope is there for us who want an awesome RF-Mount $5k C100 Mark III? Still 8-bit 30p in 4k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathlas Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Django said: Personally I'd be more interested in a $5-8K RF Cine cam from Canon. Maybe this is the RED Komodo ....if they manage to release that camera. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currensheldon Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Updated specs from CanonRumors. THIS is much more like it for their high-end cinema camera. Still leaves some room for the C300 III to play in. Still really needs 120fps in 4K though. Canon Cinema EOS C500 Mark II rumored specifications: Full-frame sensor Records up to 5.9k at 60p RAW full frame Records 4K60p in Super35 crop internally in Cinema RAW light Records 2k120p in Super16 crop in Cinema RAW light Can record in XF-AVC in 4k and 2k oversampled from the 5.9k sensor with 4:2:2 10- bit sampling CFExpress is needed because of the bitrate, the 5.9K RAW is 2.5Gbps, 4k is the same bitrate as the Cinema EOS C200 at 1Gbps RAW internal recording (both 4K and 2K). 4K is up to 60p, 2K up to 120p. Optional XF-AVC recording in 4:2:2 10 bit (4K up to 60p, 2k up to 120p) User interchangeable lens mount Optional modules with EVF, genlock, timecode, 12G-SDI, etc EF and PL mount available at launch Django 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliKMIA Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 12 hours ago, Yurolov said: Do you think it will have 24p?? 23.976 only 2 hours ago, currensheldon said: Records 4K60p in Super35 crop internally in Cinema RAW light Records 2k120p in Super16 crop in Cinema RAW light They can't help it!!! That would be strange if true, especially in the C500 range. "See impossible" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted September 5, 2019 Author Share Posted September 5, 2019 https://youtu.be/53GwFPaWWv4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephoenix Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 15 700€, ouch. but it looks good. ibis is a killer feature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Cinema 5D - Interesting as it comes in EF and not RF.... First Canon C series that isn't ugly looking imo. Could be a hit for the netflix market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Looks good, IBIS is a nice surprise - wonder how effective it will be. Also surprised it doesn't have RF mount available. Slightly cheaper than had been reported but agree with Django I think this will be more for rental, most people don't seem to be wanting to spend over £10k on a camera these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, ade towell said: Looks good, IBIS is a nice surprise - wonder how effective it will be. Also surprised it doesn't have RF mount available. Slightly cheaper than had been reported but agree with Django I think this will be more for rental, most people don't seem to be wanting to spend over £10k on a camera these days IBIS is just electronic like the EVA-1 and Canon mirrorless, not physical IBIS. sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 oh really, that's very disappointing, am sure the CVP video mentioned it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 https://***URL not allowed***/canon-c500-mark-ii-first-look-6k-full-frame-cinema-raw-light-modular-concept/ 'Electronic Image Stabilizer Canon has also added an image stabilizer for the first time in a cinema camera. They call it a 5-axis image stabilizer, so it’s technically not an IBIS because it’s fully electronic.' It's just that it has an accelerometer built-in noticing the changes in the 5-axis giving better chances to correct for unwanted motion artifacts/wobble, so better than 'we'll fix it in post with warp stabilizer', but still digital correction inducing a crop. Adam Kuźniar, frontfocus, IronFilm and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Hmm yes oh well, disappointing and why are the audio controls on the bottom right side of the camera? That's a nightmare for solo shooters Jimbo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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