jake Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Hi all, I'm looking for a lens to record musicians in nature. The musicians will generally be around 10 feet from the camera. But I really want a wide lens that captures the land scape in the background in focus as well. So hopefully the artist and the surroundings are all in focus as much as possible. I don't need AF as the camera will be stationary generally. But saying that, it would be nice, haha. Ok, many thanks for your suggestions. budget: hopefully under £200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Hey have look at Lumix G 20mm f/1.7 II ASPH good middle ground wide angle lens fits perfect your budget too ? and as bonus its fast 1.7 aperture so upclose to you get nice bokah bokeH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 A used Sigma 10-20mm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said: A used Sigma 10-20mm? Even works fine with the Viltrox speedbooster giving you 7-14mm equivalent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 27 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said: A used Sigma 10-20mm? 4 minutes ago, Avenger 2.0 said: Even works fine with the Viltrox speedbooster giving you 7-14mm equivalent. OPs budget under £200 what u lads suggesting is beyond 500quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 You can find the sigma 10-20mm second hand easy below €200 here. Viltrox not necessary, just saying if he has one it works with this lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The Panasonic 14mm f2.5 can be bought pretty cheaply. 12mm f2 Rokinon / Samyang is another option if you don't mind manual lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaunC Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Slightly more extreme but can deliver interesting results (not in low light of course) is the SL:R Magic 8mm. It's dirt cheap at B & H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 I’m very grateful for the responses. Thankyou. But can you be more specific? You have suggested a lens without explaining how they relate to my needs as I specified. I can’t understand your choice without this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Rinad Amir said: Hey have look at Lumix G 20mm f/1.7 II ASPH good middle ground wide angle lens fits perfect your budget too ? and as bonus its fast 1.7 aperture so upclose to you get nice bokah bokeH? hey thanks man, but if I’m not mistaken, the bokeh is what I don’t want. I want it all in focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 12:56 AM, jake said: hey thanks man, but if I’m not mistaken, the bokeh is what I don’t want. I want it all in focus. Bokeh is what majority of cinema folks crave but if u dont want it just stopdown on aperture say from f/1.7 to f/5.6 and everything will be tacksharp? ( in focus ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 7:36 PM, jake said: I’m very grateful for the responses. Thankyou. But can you be more specific? You have suggested a lens without explaining how they relate to my needs as I specified. I can’t understand your choice without this. What do you mean more specific? These are all wide angle lenses that would do what you requested, most in the price range you gave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Rinad Amir said: Bokeh is what majority of cinema folks crave but if u dont want it just stopdown on aperture say from f/1.7 to f/5.6 and everything will be tacksharp? ( in focus ) .....and the slower the lens and the wider it is, the deeper the depth of field will be anyway. Good luck trying to get background blur on the 8mm SLR Magic - even wide open at f4 it's almost the same DoF as the fixed focus of an action camera! (Not quite, but at f16 it sure is!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kuźniar Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Go Laowa 7.5mm f/2 or go home 42 minutes ago, kye said: Good luck trying to get background blur on the 8mm SLR Magic - even wide open at f4 it's almost the same DoF as the fixed focus of an action camera! (Not quite, but at f16 it sure is!) You can get substantial amount of bokeh on Laowa :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 On 8/30/2019 at 7:36 PM, jake said: I’m very grateful for the responses. Thankyou. But can you be more specific? You have suggested a lens without explaining how they relate to my needs as I specified. I can’t understand your choice without this. If your subject is a distance from the camera, wide angle lenses are deep focus anyway. Even so, if the DOF is somehow too shallow for you, stop down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 19 minutes ago, Adam Kuźniar said: Go Laowa 7.5mm f/2 or go home You can get substantial amount of bokeh on Laowa ? I agree. It's the only lens still on my wishlist!! Not because it has great bokeh, but because it works in lower light situations (more of blue hour and into the night with city lights and cityscapes). Generally if I'm shooting wide I'm doing it because I want a grand scene, not as a vlog or anything. I do film myself, but more as B-roll and I've found an action camera is better for those shots as they're about me in the place rather than putting the focus on only me. Plus it's easier to hold up an action camera than a GH5 and big MF lens (it's also way less embarrassing too!) This are the shots I'm interested in: @jake all the above are the 8mm SLR Magic. Jrsisson and Rinad Amir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Probably ANY lens that you can find will be OK as long as it is wide enough for what you want and the light is enough for the camera to not go to too high an ISO. This was with 1.5x APSC and was a 17mm lens so about 25mm FF equivalent and about 10 feet from the nearest musicians I think. I guess it also depends on are you shooting full bands or solo artists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac6000cw Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 On 8/31/2019 at 12:36 AM, jake said: I’m very grateful for the responses. Thankyou. But can you be more specific? You have suggested a lens without explaining how they relate to my needs as I specified. I can’t understand your choice without this. What lenses do you already own? It sounds like this is daytime use, so I guess low-light isn't really an issue (and you want in-focus background, so you don't need a large aperture lens)? The standard Panasonic 'kit' zooms (the 12-32mm 'pancake', the 12-60mm and various 14-42mm versions) are all fairly 'wide-angle' capable - these are cheap to buy used as they are very common. If 12 mm isn't wide enough then you are getting into more serious wide-angle lenses - some possibilities have already been mentioned. Even then, 7-8 mm as about as wide as you can go without it becoming a high distortion 'fish-eye' lens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Tokina 11-20 2.8 which becomes 7.5-14 2.0 with a booster. Thinking of getting it myself instead of laowa. If laowa was in 300$ price range I would probably get it. For under 200£ there arent many options. Probably used adapted stuff mostly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Kuźniar Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 18 hours ago, Amazeballs said: Tokina 11-20 2.8 which becomes 7.5-14 2.0 with a booster. Thinking of getting it myself instead of laowa. If laowa was in 300$ price range I would probably get it. For under 200£ there arent many options. Probably used adapted stuff mostly. I had the Laowa and I now have the Tokina - Laowa is definitely sharper, it's also way smaller and lighter and I prefer the focusing ring on it. Also the filter thread is smaller so NDs are cheaper But Tokina can zoom in and for someone who only carries one lens when vlogging I really like having the ability to get a closeup. Still, often I'm thinking about going back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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