Xavier Plagaro Mussard Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 It's a phone, not a camera ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Xavier Plágaro Mussard said: It's a phone, not a camera ? It's a calculator... It's a pager... it's a word processor... What really is a smartphone? It's a computer with a bunch of sensors and transceivers attached to it. They are whatever the software dictates they are. One day the major camera manufacturers are going to catch on to this fact, and then we can start to reap the benefits of computational photography on a real camera. Xavier Plagaro Mussard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Or the other way around. Some cameras practically are phones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photographer-at-large Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 next iPad Pros are rumored to have same 3-lens and A13x processor.....would make it even more interesting IF portrait mode / selectable bokeh is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 14 hours ago, hoodlum said: The telephoto camera all have smaller sensors, no OIS in some cases and slower aperture lenses than the wide lens on the iphone. This applies to all android phones as well. What this means is that you need to shoot at higher shutter speeds and that combined with the smaller sensor introduces a lot more noise (especially in low light), almost negating the benefit of telephoto lens due to heaver Noise Reduction. I still question the benefit of these telephoto lenses although at least the new iphone's telephoto camera now has a faster lens. All 3 cameras in the iPhone 11 Pro have OIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodlum Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, sanveer said: All 3 cameras in the iPhone 11 Pro have OIS. The ultra-wide doesn't have it, although it is less necessary for this focal length salim 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 3 hours ago, hoodlum said: The ultra-wide doesn't have it, although it is less necessary for this focal length You're right. Apple's literature on some of it's own sites is Incorrect. The US site, though is more precise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Maybe the next EOSHD camera challenge should be: Make a video with your smartphone (have a list of approved phones; several generations of android and iPhone). For example, no models lower than an iPhone 7. Make it as cinematic as possible. Make another video with the camera you own with a cap of nothing more expensive than say $2500. Don’t tell people what the videos where filmed on then ask them to guess: phone or DSLR? Have a vote ranking for each. Not sure what the prizes should be. 12 hours ago, DBounce said: Pretty sure I saw a picturing showing they filmed some of these promos with a wonkier cinema lens setup hooked up to an iPhone and said it was filmed on an iPhone. ? sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBounce Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Video Hummus said: Pretty sure I saw a picturing showing they filmed some of these promos with a won’t cinema lens setup hooked up to an iPhone and said it was filmed on an iPhone. ? That dosen't change the fact that it was shot on an iPhone. Many here buy great bodies and use with less than equal lenses, but the smarter buy might be to do the opposite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, DBounce said: That dosen't change the fact that it was shot on an iPhone. Many here buy great bodies and use with less than equal lenses, but the smarter buy might be to do the opposite. Sure. But I won’t walk out of a Apple store and film what I saw in some of the promos. It’s a bit of a misrepresentation. I know it sells phones but I would think people would be more interested in how well it can film their kids or their dog in the heat of the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 It is. And now it records 4K60p with extended HDR on all 4 cameras (including selfie). And the car shot in apple video was shot handheld which is insane. Quite impressive for video this new phone. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefactory Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Pretty sure filmic will let you record 2 cameras at the same time. You can switch between 4 though. sanveer and Emanuel 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, thefactory said: Pretty sure filmic will let you record 2 cameras at the same time. You can switch between 4 though. Exactly. It shows 4 screens including the selfie camera. And then you have the option of choosing 2 for recording the video on. iPhone events add too much of hype. That's their raison d'être I guess. Each time they have a smartphone, they make it seem like the Alexa or Medium format has become redundant. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Recording 2 cameras at a time does not seem like a stretch on newer Androids, so hopefully, they will copy the feature. Capturing a wide and normal angle while using subject tracking on a mobile gimbal would be pretty nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxotis70 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 android phones cannot record even a single stream 4k 60p without time limits-overheating...2 are impossible for a long time ! hoodlum and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Android offers higher resolution sensor technology based for mobile capture though, so seems Android for stills, iPhone 11 for video in this late 2010s to early 2020s (E : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodlum Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Emanuel said: Android offers higher resolution sensor technology based for mobile capture though, so seems Android for stills, iPhone 11 for video in this late 2010s to early 2020s (E : -) It will have a new 24mp mode that they are calling Deep Fusion. I am curious what sensor Apple is using as they could be using a 48mp sensor that they then downscale to 24mp after merging the images. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodlum Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 IOS 13 will add multi-camera support for the XS for those that are not looking to upgrade. Now if only they did the same for the Night Mode https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/249/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/15/2019 at 4:31 PM, toxotis70 said: android phones cannot record even a single stream 4k 60p without time limits-overheating...2 are impossible for a long time ! https://***URL removed***/news/9532625734/apple-iphone-multiple-camera-recording-will-be-available-on-2018-flagship-devices Read it and weep, fanboy. Looks like Apple is also omitting crucial information (although, the new generation should be less limited). Edit: Apparently, you can record front and rear cameras at the same time on Android for 3 years now: https://smartfilming.blog/2018/04/17/12-recording-video-with-both-front-and-rear-cameras-simultaneously-on-android/ sanveer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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