ntblowz Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Still 24mp, 4k30p 420 8bit, and no log wyrlyn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Yeah and the sensor has such a high readout speed there really is no reason this thing shouldn't have at least 4K 60p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthanAlexander Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 This part is really cool though! Quote Designed to improve the speed of news agencies’ workflow, the Alpha 9 II features a new Voice Memo function that allows spoken information to be attached to images in the form of voice memos that can be replayed when the images are reviewed. The voice data can also be included with images sent to an editor, giving them important information needed for effective editing. Alternatively, a field photographer can also use the ‘Transfer & Tagging add-on’ “Imaging Edge™” application[vi] to transfer voice tags with the images to their mobile device and have the voice memos automatically[vii] converted to text and added to the JPEG images in the form of IPTC metadata[viii]. All of this can be done automatically or manually, selectable by the photographer. I'd love for this to come to video on their other cameras. Imagine how much faster piecing together edits would be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Merely a firmware update... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted October 3, 2019 Super Members Share Posted October 3, 2019 For their intended professional live editorial photographer market, they've addressed a couple of big issues with the higher fps mechanical shutter (though 10fps still leaves it quite a way behind the D5/1DXii) and the connectivity options for file transmission. Not sure why its taken them over two years of extremely low (if any) penetration into that particular market to react to what were blindingly obvious shortcomings in the original and I can't see it making much difference against the Nikon/Canon duopoly. 4 hours ago, EthanAlexander said: This part is really cool though! I'd love for this to come to video on their other cameras. Imagine how much faster piecing together edits would be! The add voice memo has been in Nikon and Canon's pro bodies for years (D3 was the first one I used it on) and its a great feature, particularly when your images are being remote edited. The speech to text aspect with the A9 is very interesting but it ties you in to their app which means another step in the workflow as you have to pass it through that to get to your real editing app. For sports though, the use of key code shortcuts to generate captions (e.g. When I type "l10p sc1 tmi l1 r0 tag" into my caption field it instantly converts it to "Liverpool striker Sadio Mane scores their first goal to make it Liverpool 1 Red Bull Salzburg 0 in the UEFA Champions League Group E match at Anfield stadium, Liverpool, UK on 2nd October 2019") is such a vital part of the workflow that it won't offer any speed benefit at all unless they can tie that facility in to it. As caption accuracy is non-negotiable then I'd also be worried about it getting a few wrong while it was learning my voice ! Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Geoff CB said: Yeah and the sensor has such a high readout speed there really is no reason this thing shouldn't have at least 4K 60p Apparently they were asked about why the sensor was the same on the conference call, and their response was that the processing power to handle a new sensor was not ready quite yet, according to Jared Polin. The camera does have the latest variant of the Bionz X though. It suggests that there is a new sensor that they have not used yet because of processing requirements, and that the processor to do that is on the way but not quite ready. I would guess they needed to release the a9II in time for the Olympics, so they used the processors they had. But since it has the Bionz X the video specs would be the same. I suspect that the next processor will come with the a7SIII, since they will need improved video specs for that system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Meh... Every new Sony announcement has me feeling like the a7s3 is going to be a major dud - from rolling out the same damn sensors across the board except for the a7r4 and the endless 8-bit parade, I'm expecting very little from the s3 beyond the Z battery and the new AF. Chris andrgl and kaylee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Sports Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Trek of Joy said: Meh... Every new Sony announcement has me feeling like the a7s3 is going to be a major dud - from rolling out the same damn sensors across the board except for the a7r4 and the endless 8-bit parade, I'm expecting very little from the s3 beyond the Z battery and the new AF. Chris I think they are going to pull a Canon and go for the upsell, FX6 will be what we want in the a7siii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 They keep saying what is important for sport shooters is communication and workflow.. ok, that's right.. but you're asking $4500 and after 2 years you didn't even bother upgrading the processor (overclock it a bit here and there and call it new!). Apple tripled the performance of their SoC and added tons of new capabilities in that period. What about.. say sport shooter want to do something other than shooting sport and sending the image to news agency? What about enthusiasts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, Eric Calabros said: They keep saying what is important for sport shooters is communication and workflow.. ok, that's right.. but you're asking $4500 and after 2 years you didn't even bother upgrading the processor (overclock it a bit here and there and call it new!). Apple tripled the performance of their SoC and added tons of new capabilities in that period. What about.. say sport shooter want to do something other than shooting sport and sending the image to news agency? What about enthusiasts? To be fair, Apple et al. have also been using the same imaging modules for years now and only improved the processing speed and added computational tricks. Samsung is 100% guilty of this, maybe someone can confirm specs sheets for Apple. Sensor tech has stalled quite a bit, not a lot of progress there - mostly faster readout, but sensitivity hasn't really improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Considering Panasonic has internal 10 bit full frame 4k and 4k 60p there is no reason Sony can't as well. That said if they refuse to make the body bigger that could be the limitation. We know they are severely holding back on the A6 line considering what the XT3 can do at the same size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellure Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Jeeze, still no 4k60p. Anyone know if they at least added picture profiles this time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I enjoyed the told ya so on the a7riv and a6600, but this is getting canon level sad now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 ??? I was just abt to start a thread on this camera called "Uhmmmm...?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 9 hours ago, Mako Sports said: I think they are going to pull a Canon and go for the upsell, FX6 will be what we want in the a7siii I agree. The FX6 will be the a7s3 we all want, minus the IBIS and the $3200 price tag. Chris Mako Sports 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Collins Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Snowbro said: I enjoyed the told ya so on the a7riv and a6600, but this is getting canon level sad now. No picture profiles.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 “Nothing to see”? The price tag certainly made me look twice. And then look away sharpish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Only it won't do stills ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbro Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 People who bought the 1DX II in 2016 are probably still feeling pretty good, wish I hadn't sold mine. It accidently got ran over by a snowmobile and fell out of a moving car and still worked fine lol. It is a big heavy bitch though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokara Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Snowfun said: “Nothing to see”? The price tag certainly made me look twice. And then look away sharpish. I would buy one in a heartbeat if I could afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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