Emanuel Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 12032 x 9024 pixels and 6K (6016 x 3384 pixels) up to 30fps in the $250-350 price range this time? Seems we'll have news this October 24... https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_cc9_pro_rumored_to_bring_108mp_camera_and_snapdragon_730g_chipset_-news-39444.php https://www.technobezz.com/xiaomi-may-release-the-mi-cc9-pro-with-108-mp-camera-on-october-24-985365/ source Add Camera 2 API and you'll have manual controls, reach up to 200Mbps and yet extend your DR going with Log modes... Just holding less than 200 grams! E : -) shooter, Andrew Reid, Belle and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 The samples from 48mpx (12mpx) have been impressive, but from 64mpx (16mpx) not so much. Since the 108mpx (27mpx) sensor is the same size as the 64mpx, I am not holding my breath. However, S11 is rumored to feature the 108mpx sensor, so I hope they can do some magic in post processing that the budget brands can't right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 15, 2019 Author Share Posted October 15, 2019 What 64MP? ; ) I've found the budget Redmi's 48MP offer pretty impressive coupled to Camera 2 API indeed. I guess their 108MP won't be less than the customary flagships to be sincere. Despite the utmost processing power of the tiptop chips available as usual happens. I don't find 64MP any of uninteresting, on the contrary especially when pixel peeped for checking resolution as due. Sharpness is not the better at any rate, above all when motion (or composition) is our target as we know. Other than that, you won't really notice nor need it, I'm afraid. Here's a curious comparison... 48MP still photo crop low light samples on: OnePlus 7T Redmi Note 7 64MP still photo crop low light samples on: Redmi Note 8 Pro Realme XT source: https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=9816&idCamera2=300572&idCamera3=300624 https://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idCamera1=300572&idCamera2=300624&idCamera3=300619 Belle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 Still on 64MP sensors... Pity Realme didn't launch a global version with worldwide bands... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 Here is the new OnePlus T series contender, both Pro and budget versions on 64MP Samsung GW1 side to offer 4K60p -- now updated info, just launched a couple of days ago: https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_x2_pro_hands_on-review-2004.php https://www.realme.com/eu/realme-x2-pro/specs "Video Bokeh Effect"? If as similar as most recent Samsung's, don't hold much hope and your breath... LOL : ) Although Realme as much as Xiaomi's CC 9 series are known by their excellence to handle moving image or satisfy phone camera lovers : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Emanuel said: "Video Bokeh Effect"? Here is -- just don't expect @4K as seems: JurijTurnsek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Smartphones in the last 3 years or so have improved tremendously in dynamic range, colour accuracy and lowlight (and extremely easy to use and quick to snap away). The last and final frontier is detail and actual resolution. Once smartphones resolve as much as 20MP M43 cameras, I doubt whether we could need anything else to complain. They will also, then, replace much larger sensor cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenEricson Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 hours ago, sanveer said: Smartphones in the last 3 years or so have improved tremendously in dynamic range, colour accuracy and lowlight (and extremely easy to use and quick to snap away). The last and final frontier is detail and actual resolution. Once smartphones resolve as much as 20MP M43 cameras, I doubt whether we could need anything else to complain. They will also, then, replace much larger sensor cameras. The sensors are tiny. My iPhone XS looks only okay in lower light with anything but the widest lens. It’s great in the right conditions, but that’s always been the case. Even the phones now seen good enough for most consumers. I should mention that the skin tone and color is actually much worse on my iPhone XS than the 6s that was made 3 years earlier. This might have to do with improved high ISO performance. Historically that always seems to be the problem with all lowlight cameras. Portrait mode is also so dodgy and kinda works well sometimes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 5 hours ago, BenEricson said: The sensors are tiny. My iPhone XS looks only okay in lower light with anything but the widest lens. It’s great in the right conditions, but that’s always been the case. Even the phones now seen good enough for most consumers. I should mention that the skin tone and color is actually much worse on my iPhone XS than the 6s that was made 3 years earlier. This might have to do with improved high ISO performance. Historically that always seems to be the problem with all lowlight cameras. Portrait mode is also so dodgy and kinda works well sometimes? The iPhone has seriously exaggerated colours and which are quite off, as well. I don't even consider their photos acceptable. Other low light cameras don't have this problem. The portrait mode is fine by smartphone standards. The problem is when you see the photos on a larger screen (larger than a smartphone size), the quality suddenly looks rubbish and the colours seem very disappointing. The same applies for video. Everything looks like 480p or worse. BenEricson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 15 hours ago, Emanuel said: Here is -- just don't expect @4K as seems: That is actually decent. Not that I would ever need it, but still. This Realme looks like a beast, but the AndroidAuthority review slammed it's low light performance. Waiting for the verdict from GSMArena. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 12 hours ago, JurijTurnsek said: (...) This Realme looks like a beast, but the AndroidAuthority review slammed it's low light performance. Waiting for the verdict from GSMArena. https://www.androidauthority.com/realme-x2-pro-review-1040898/ Which seems to be to pass on this one... OnePlus 7T and waiting for 108MP by Xiaomi on budget line still in 2019, until OnePlus will release their next generation the following year, my fair guesstimate : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 28, 2019 Author Share Posted October 28, 2019 Unveiled today, to be launched on November 5 ... five cameras on the rear: https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_cc9_pro_will_have_five_cameras_arriving_on_november_5-news-39830.php https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_posts_camera_samples_from_mi_cc9_pro_focusing_on_its_zooming_skills-news-39835.php shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JurijTurnsek Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 The big news for Xiaomi Note 10 / CC9 Pro is that their telephoto module will actually feature 1.4 micrometer pixels 12mpx, which is bigger than basically all of the telephoto modules out there (using 1.0 micrometer pixels). And does that tiny marco module even count as anything? I mean how many times is someone going to use it? Not really worth the cost of adding it in. Hopefully, no flagship OEM adopts this gimmick. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 29, 2019 Author Share Posted October 29, 2019 https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_teases_a_curved_screen_for_the_mi_cc9_pro_shows_off_its_zoom_camera_on_video-news-39853.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 30, 2019 Author Share Posted October 30, 2019 https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/mi-note-10-launch-teaser-108-megapixel-xiaomi-phone-cc9-pro-2123976 https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_note_10-9936.php shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Hopefully, we finally have something that resolves as much detail as the 1inch 20MP sensors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted October 31, 2019 Author Share Posted October 31, 2019 I wonder on the use of their low resolution macros vs One Plus 7T offer for example, though: shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 1, 2019 Author Share Posted November 1, 2019 CC9 Pro's global version... November 14 in Europe revealed on Facebook: https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/10/31/xiaomi-mi-note-10-launch-date-is-november-14/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 5, 2019 Author Share Posted November 5, 2019 https://www.androidauthority.com/xiaomi-mi-note-10-pro-1050086/ https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-note-10-pro-108mp-camera-sample/ https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_note_10_pro_is_also_coming_revealed_by_108mp_camera_sample-news-39942.php May Snapdragon 855+ bring 4K60p to match OnePlus 7T (video) performance? Coupled to 108MP stills though, let's wait and see just a few hours away... shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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