Ki Rin Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 https://www.kandaovr.com/qoocam-8k/ This could be it. 8K. 1/1.7-inch sensor 10-bit video. 12-bit stills. Belle, kye, ntblowz and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, Ki Rin said: https://www.kandaovr.com/qoocam-8k/ This could be it. 8K. 1/1.7-inch sensor 10-bit video. 12-bit stills. Wow. It really could be. Quote 7680*3840@30fps ∣ 10bit ∣ H.265 200Mbps (max) 8K is great, but I think it's the low bandwidth and bit-depth that have limited other cameras. 200mbps h265 is *very* promising in this regard. This will be one to watch - let's hope that it delivers and that it's easy to use. So many products have the tech spec but the app won't work or makes no sense, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenscreen Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Remember 8k is four times 4k Equivalent to 50Mbps in the end although H.265 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreymorrison/2019/11/07/kandao-qoocam-8k-360-camera-preview/#668a3cb64492 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki Rin Posted November 8, 2019 Author Share Posted November 8, 2019 40 minute non-removable battery could be a bit of a deal killer though.. Everything else looks great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 45 minutes ago, greenscreen said: Remember 8k is four times 4k Equivalent to 50Mbps in the end although H.265 The resolution doesn't really matter, what kills 360 is the bitrate. If you're cropping into this for a wide angle shot then you'll be taking a 90degree crop, which is 1/4 of the width and let's assume 1/2.5 the height (just for ease of maths). This means that you're using 10% of the total pixels, and 10% of the total bitrate. If the source is 8K then you'll have a 2k crop. Not bad. The problem is that if that 8K was 100mbps, your 2k image will be 10mbps, which is just awful. If the source was 4k but was raw, you'd have a 1k crop, but it would be raw. Which would be the nicer image? 1k raw or 2k 10mbps? Its the bitrate that kills these things, not the resolution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenscreen Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Of course, it isn't resolution. Low bitrate kills any need of resolution. So help 360 resolution. 8k is without question not bad. The higher bitrate the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 And without forgetting h.265 is more efficient than h.264 as for instance demanding for less bit rate straight out the box. greenscreen and majoraxis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Emanuel said: And without forgetting h.265 is more efficient than h.264 as for instance demanding for less bit rate straight out the box. h265 is about half the size as equivalent quality h264. So this is equivalent to 400mbps h264. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Specs look quite good. Would love to see some actual tests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 7 hours ago, kye said: h265 is about half the size as equivalent quality h264. So this is equivalent to 400mbps h264. Also, compression with H.265 tends to scale better than linearly with increasing resolution. So 200Mbps in HEVC is respectable. kye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Any word on pricing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsFan Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, Amazeballs said: Any word on pricing? $589 for preorder (includes a free selfie stick!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Emanuel Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 One of these days, DJI pops up with a new VR360 acquisition drone everyone will not resist to buy... The future for aerial photography is there... Just a comment line. In a word to say the least: Impressive. The best bang for the buck today : -) Belle, greenscreen and shooter 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Emanuel said: Just a comment line. In a word to say the least: Impressive. The best bang for the buck today : -) Only static shoot on the last video, camera is fixed on a tripod. Other test did not seems to show too much gain in details for reframed video. Photos seems a good step up but I don’t care too much for 360 photos. For me the interesting part is the reframing and there it does not seems to gain that much if any.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 hours ago, gt3rs said: Only static shoot on the last video, camera is fixed on a tripod. Other test did not seems to show too much gain in details for reframed video. Photos seems a good step up but I don’t care too much for 360 photos. For me the interesting part is the reframing and there it does not seems to gain that much if any.... There's no impressive reframing I've seen so far to be straightforward. This doesn't mean it can't be useful, it is, I firmly believe will variably end handy. But, my impression is basically made on 10-bit and successive low light response and colour fidelity. What other device you have for that so light form factor, humm? ; -) Let's reframe and refrain the whishful thinking... No capture device tools you've heard about will likely suppress those ones you already are aware, that well-known functionality to serve your needs. Horses for courses : ) That said, be ready for this game changer! LOL How to neglect 8K 360º acquisition? : -) Belle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IronFilm Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 On 11/8/2019 at 12:35 PM, Ki Rin said: 1/1.7-inch sensor That sensor is a bit on the small side! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Comparing with the GoPro Max... shooter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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