Apple releases 16 in MacBook Pro with better thermals!

[Shell64]

Apple introduced the 16 in MacBook Pro today. Seems pretty good. Same price as the previous model too. The big thing I like is the improved thermals. Hopefully the i9 processor won’t thermal throttle this time!  They also improved the keyboard which is pretty significant. Processors are the same but that’s fine because all we needed performance wise is new thermals. You can configure it with 64gb RAM and the RAM speed has been improved. Also new AMD 7nm graphics. Finally we don’t have to pay extra for improved graphics. 

Overall seems pretty solid to me!

[Amazeballs]

The couple of downsides with this machine for me are:

- the cost of added storage/ram which gets very pricey and fast. And it aint possible to upgrade it itself ofcourse 

- radeon 5500 which has the same tdp (85watt) as nvidia 2070maxq but far less juice specially for Resolve which loves CUDA cores

- overall dreadfull reapirability 

- a very ascetic selection of ports

Otherwise seems like a pretty good upgrade to me. 

[Shell64]

Valid points. Especially no diy upgrades. I hate to spend so much on a machine and never be able to fix or upgrade anything down the road. Maybe I only need 16gb now but may want 32gb later!

[Mako Sports]

Ill go with the Lenovo P53 over the new MBP ?

[Amazeballs]

I am drooling at the Razer Blade 15

[kaylee]

well, its here!

new 16" laptop is just what everyone expected. some important improvements, still pricey, still weirdly apple in all its quirky ways

im actually grown up enough now to be planning on a PC for my resolve/vfx puter... but im brand new to all this so i have no idea whats going on ?

2 questions:

- in a word, can/should i look at "gaming" laptops/towers?

- is a laptop a good option...? id much prefer that bc portable obvs

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edit: the one thing that i want fer SURE is a beast of a computer thats fast af for me while i learn vfx and edit complex projects in resolve!!! i want it to take p much whatever i can throw at it up to 4k ?

[BTM_Pix]

2 hours ago, kaylee said:

- is a laptop a good option...? id much prefer that bc portable obvs

I think unless you literally have to do work in the field, rather than just would like the option to sit and edit video in Starbucks  , then the price of this thing would give me pause to consider the desktop option for the price/performance ratio but also the expandability.

I find that there is also a really important discipline aspect to it as well as with a desktop by you having to have it in a fixed place and I find that far more conducive to concentrated working when I have to go to a place with a desk and a chair. With a laptop you can sit on your arse on the couch in the living room and work but it quickly ends up being just the sitting on your arse on the couch part as you are in living room mode rather than workspace mode and lose concentration.

Its worth bearing in mind of course that if you did want to sit on your arse on the couch or edit in Starbucks then with a network/decent internet connection you can easily remote back to the mothership monster motherfucker beast desktop from a small laptop and have it do all the hard work. You can pick up a 2015 11" MacBook Air for less than £300 which is ideal for that role and many others.

The main point I'm getting round to though is that going back to working at a desk is a good move as we all need to buy these 32:9 monitors !

All that processing power counts for not a lot if you're spending most of your time scrolling and re-sizing.

[Paul Jonathan]

What are people thoughts about how the GPU will perform with Davinci Resolve? Not familiar with these new AMD chips.

[Cinegain]

Not an Apple guy, not my kinda cookie. Right now I'm looking at some of these:

• https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/yoga/c-series/yoga-c940-15
• https://www.asus.com/ProArt/Laptops-Home/ | https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ASUS-ZenBook-Flip-15-UX563FD/
• https://www.msi.com/Landing/content-creation-laptops/nb

 

[jpfilmz]

5 hours ago, Paul Jonathan said:

What are people thoughts about how the GPU will perform with Davinci Resolve? Not familiar with these new AMD chips.

Not sure but im trading my 2018 i9 560x in for one.

[Aquilasfx]

do you think that Apple will change my new MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2019) 2,3 GHz Intel Core i9 32 GB 2400 MHz DDR4 Radeon Pro Vega 20 4 GB. With this new one?

[Dimitris Stasinos]

Guys, believe me the latest MacBook Pro generations are total garbage. After too much scepticism I finally decided to pull the trigger on an almost maxed out 2019 model.

Just 3 months ago i ordered a BTO Macbook 2019 with 32 GB Ram and a Vega 20 inside.

The first thing i noticed was the crappy butterfly keyboard but i already knew the story so I ordered a silicone cover to protect it from dust.

Then while installing my apps i noticed that the right speaker was producing a pop sound every 30-60 seconds. After an extensive research i found out that this is a common problem with 2018-19 MacBook generations and Apple refuses to investigate the cause of this issue and fix it. You can find many videos demonstrating this issue on the net. Here is mine:

 

The audio popping in my case is constant. On the video above you can see just a way to replicate this. Working with Final Cut is a nightmare as every time the cursor is falling on a clip or the timeline a pop is produced from the right speaker.

Almost every 2019 model produces this pop while playing - skipping any type of media, although in a different volume. If there is a volume threshold where this is starting to annoy you, mine is over that. I visited 3 different Apple stores and i could clearly listen the pop on their display machines, although in a much smaller volume than mine. So many models have been affected.

It is not known yet if this is a software or a hardware issue.

As i said above, Apple technicians are refusing to investigate this. I don't know if the new 16 inch model will have this issue, as they changed the speaker configuration.

So be aware, this new 16" model might seem ideal for video editing but if serious problems like mine appear, Apple may never fix them.

PS. Shot on GH5 and Olympus 12-40, LOL

[Aquilasfx]

3 hours ago, Dimitris Stasinos said:

Guys, believe me the latest MacBook Pro generations are total garbage. After too much scepticism I finally decided to pull the trigger on an almost maxed out 2019 model.

Just 3 months ago i ordered a BTO Macbook 2019 with 32 GB Ram and a Vega 20 inside.

The first thing i noticed was the crappy butterfly keyboard but i already knew the story so I ordered a silicone cover to protect it from dust.

Then while installing my apps i noticed that the right speaker was producing a pop sound every 30-60 seconds. After an extensive research i found out that this is a common problem with 2018-19 MacBook generations and Apple refuses to investigate the cause of this issue and fix it. You can find many videos demonstrating this issue on the net. Here is mine:

 

The audio popping in my case is constant. On the video above you can see just a way to replicate this. Working with Final Cut is a nightmare as every time the cursor is falling on a clip or the timeline a pop is produced from the right speaker.

Almost every 2019 model produces this pop while playing - skipping any type of media, although in a different volume. If there is a volume threshold where this is starting to annoy you, mine is over that. I visited 3 different Apple stores and i could clearly listen the pop on their display machines, although in a much smaller volume than mine. So many models have been affected.

It is not known yet if this is a software or a hardware issue.

As i said above, Apple technicians are refusing to investigate this. I don't know if the new 16 inch model will have this issue, as they changed the speaker configuration.

So be aware, this new 16" model might seem ideal for video editing but if serious problems like mine appear, Apple may never fix them.

PS. Shot on GH5 and Olympus 12-40, LOL

ehi bro, your machine is faulty, mine doesn't produce this problem...

[Dimitris Stasinos]

1 hour ago, Aquilasfx said:

ehi bro, your machine is faulty, mine doesn't produce this problem...

This is not my point. Of course my machine is faulty. 

My point is that a great number of these laptops are sold this way and Apple refuses to fix them. If your machine doesn't have this issue then lucky you.

 

[Django]

Yeah my first gen MacBook Pro Touch (2017?) had some quite severe issues (USB-C ports not working, battery problems etc) that required full motherboard replacement.. twice. 

Now I am faced with new issues and the laptop is no longer under warranty so it’s almost throwaway.

That said  I don’t see myself ever going back to PC world (virus and compatibility issues being the main grief).

This new 16” sure is tempting for specs alone but I am very weary of these first gen MacBooks. 

I just might go with a maxed out Mac mini + BMD eGPu as an alternative. You get a lot more I/Os, they are upgradable and you can put them in a backpack from the office to home when needed. 

[kaylee]

1 hour ago, Dimitris Stasinos said:

This is not my point. Of course my machine is faulty. 

My point is that a great number of these laptops are sold this way and Apple refuses to fix them. If your machine doesn't have this issue then lucky you.

i used to work at an appl store, and the "known unknown issue" is a thing. it SUCKS. you haveta pretend like "ANYTHING THAT ISNT ON APPL DOT COM" doesnt exist, even if we just had a meeting *abt not talking abt it*

its amazing

[deezid]

Wow, finally a GPU with the performance of a  GTX1650 found in $600 laptops!
Nice work, Apple.

If Apple continues to innovate like that I guess we can expect 2080 MaxQ like performance in only 10 years.

[Shell64]

4 hours ago, Django said:

That said  I don’t see myself ever going back to PC world (virus and compatibility issues being the main grief).

It’s really not that bad in pc land. Just moved from my pathetic 2014 Mac mini to a liquid cooled rtx 2060 rig for Davinci resolve. Download a free antivirus like Kaspersky free which I use and it works great. Or use Windows Defender. According to a huge German AV test that is considered THE standard, Windows Defender came on top. 

Point is Windows is not terrible like it once was. Unless you are using final cut, save money and go Windows. Just get a reliable free antivirus and don’t download Zhongi_Video_LUT_installer.exe

[Mako Sports]

22 minutes ago, Shell64 said:

It’s really not that bad in pc land. Just moved from my pathetic 2014 Mac mini to a liquid cooled rtx 2060 rig for Davinci resolve. Download a free antivirus like Kaspersky free which I use and it works great. Or use Windows Defender. According to a huge German AV test that is considered THE standard, Windows Defender came on top. 

Point is Windows is not terrible like it once was. Unless you are using final cut, save money and go Windows. Just get a reliable free antivirus and don’t download Zhongi_Video_LUT_installer.exe

 

5 hours ago, Django said:

That said  I don’t see myself ever going back to PC world (virus and compatibility issues being the main grief).

As long as you have decent antivirus and aren't downloading porn you should have zero issues with viruses.

If you have other Apple devices and can't live without Airdrop then that's a reason to stay Apple. 

I just cant see myself paying so much more especially when the 4K editing performance wont be any better. 

[EthanAlexander]

I guess I'm in the minority on the forum enjoying Apple. 

When I have to take out my wallet, being on mac sucks, but it's worth it just to be able to use FCPX and avoid Premiere. Maybe one day I'll have the time to learn Resolve for anything besides color and consider Windows then... 

Nahhh just kidding I'm a fanboy I'll never leave.