Emanuel Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/news/fujifilm-x-t4-rumors-an-aps-c-panasonic-s1h-with-6k-60fps-ibis-internal-10-bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethin Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Hurrah. Apsc is the ideal sensor size IMHO. Better noise and dynamic range than m43, higher frame rates than full frame, easier to move and cool than full frame. Speed-boostable for a full frame look. There's nothing sensible out there at the moment so I'll be watching this fuji closely. Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Specwise sounds really good. I would keep my eye on it. 2020 will be a hot year - GH6, EM1.3 and maybe A7S3 finally? We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien416 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Anamorphic would be a game changer and a welcome addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 X-T3/X-T30 already readout and supersample the sensor at 6K 50P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkabi Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 So.... no XH2 or discontinuing the XH3 after XH2??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I personally don’t care about 6k but would care very much for an IBIS 4K 60p body. Make it an XH2 or XT4, I don’t mind either way but just make it. Ideally with the shutter from the XH1 and battery from the GFX medium format body. Thanks Fuji. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Could be great. The biggest plus for me would be improved low light performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethin Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I'm a nikon shooter, but I'm just about done with them. And I really want my 4k 60 back. (I ditched my gh5 for a z6). Anyone here had experience with both nikons and fujis? Will I miss the dynamic range shooting stills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 hour ago, gethin said: I'm a nikon shooter, but I'm just about done with them. And I really want my 4k 60 back. (I ditched my gh5 for a z6). Anyone here had experience with both nikons and fujis? Will I miss the dynamic range shooting stills? Im a Z6 owner who tried out the XT-3, the lowlight AF performance on Fuji was far worse and one of the reasons I didn't switch. Also the lack of a deep grip on the XT-3 was really annoying. If they fix the grip, improve AF, give it IBIS, and give it a bigger battery then it might be worth it to switch for me. Though right now I'm hoping Sony can deliver a 10-bit camera in the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 6 hours ago, gethin said: I'm a nikon shooter, but I'm just about done with them. And I really want my 4k 60 back. (I ditched my gh5 for a z6). Anyone here had experience with both nikons and fujis? Will I miss the dynamic range shooting stills? Dynamic range in stills is really good. I've never had a situation where I wasn't getting enough dynamic range, even in really harsh conditions. The difference you'll see is when shooting higher ISO's. It just doesn't keep up past 3200 iso. I never loved the 8 bit 4k 60p on the GH5 but its amazing on the XT3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 I have used the XT3 and the Z6 extensively and even though I ended up selling the former I still miss it for the sheer video quality it puts out. I think it definitely has the Z6 beat in that regard, the image is simply more pleasing, especially in 10bit, and the rolling shutter in 4K is less noticeable than on the Nikon. But then again I kept the Z6, and it’s a much nicer stills camera, better past 3200 iso, feels a lot more robust in the hands, easier to switch between video and stills, has very useable autofocus and a very good IBIS. I’ve kept some Fuji glass though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 20 minutes ago, Simon Young said: I have used the XT3 and the Z6 extensively and even though I ended up selling the former I still miss it for the sheer video quality it puts out. I think it definitely has the Z6 beat in that regard, the image is simply more pleasing, especially in 10bit, and the rolling shutter in 4K is less noticeable than on the Nikon. But then again I kept the Z6, and it’s a much nicer stills camera, better past 3200 iso, feels a lot more robust in the hands, easier to switch between video and stills, has very useable autofocus and a very good IBIS. I’ve kept some Fuji glass though... Non-crop 4K on X-T3 and Z6 has the same rolling shutter at around 21ms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanRevert Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 How did the XT3 do financially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathlas Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 11 hours ago, gethin said: I'm a nikon shooter, but I'm just about done with them. And I really want my 4k 60 back. (I ditched my gh5 for a z6). Anyone here had experience with both nikons and fujis? Will I miss the dynamic range shooting stills? Well in case Nikon continues the free fall I bet that the one that could buy them is Fujifilm. They will get exactly what they miss right now : FF clients and proffesionals. They could be number one company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Will it do video continuosuly without overheating warnings ? Fuji and Sony are both a lottery in this respect and have led a spec war to the bottom. 6K is a gimmick if it only means a few minutes at a time without seizing up. I think that may be one reason why Canon is so cautious. But if Fuji have truly solved overheating, it could be fantastic.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Simon Young said: I have used the XT3 and the Z6 extensively and even though I ended up selling the former I still miss it for the sheer video quality it puts out. I think it definitely has the Z6 beat in that regard, the image is simply more pleasing, especially in 10bit, and the rolling shutter in 4K is less noticeable than on the Nikon. But then again I kept the Z6, and it’s a much nicer stills camera, better past 3200 iso, feels a lot more robust in the hands, easier to switch between video and stills, has very useable autofocus and a very good IBIS. I’ve kept some Fuji glass though... I have kept the 35mm f1.4 for years even when i havent have a fuji body ? it has a great rainbow flare akin to some cinema glass. Not sure if all copies have this or just mine Simon Young 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 11 hours ago, androidlad said: Non-crop 4K on X-T3 and Z6 has the same rolling shutter at around 21ms. Unless shooting 4K 60p and then it’s 1.18 This is a good thing for me though as my 35mm lens becomes equivalent to more like a 60mm. (35 x 1.5 x 1.18) I also took a really good look at the Z6 and decided although it was probably a very slightly better stills camera, despite the IBIS, not quite as good for video. I have run 2 systems before and don’t much care for it so sticking with Fuji for both as everything is interchangeable when you have 3 bodies all the same but 5 lenses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 20 hours ago, androidlad said: Non-crop 4K on X-T3 and Z6 has the same rolling shutter at around 21ms. where did you get this info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 20 minutes ago, Inazuma said: where did you get this info? http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?303559-Measuring-rolling-shutter-put-a-number-on-this-issue! XT3 4k 24fps ------ 20.6 ms (20.9-20.4-20.4) Z6 4k FF ---------- 23.0 ms (slashcam.de) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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