androidlad Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 If my sources are correct, Olympus will soon announce a 41MP MFT mirrorless camera using a variant of this sensor: There will be 164MP high-res mode and ultra-low ISO25 mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 7 hours ago, androidlad said: There will be 164MP high-res mode and ultra-low ISO25 mode. Anyone know approx. how many stops of exposure there is between 200 and 25 ISO? I long for the day I can dial in proper exposure for motion picture shooting using only ISO. tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Bakos Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said: Anyone know approx. how many stops of exposure there is between 200 and 25 ISO? I long for the day I can dial in proper exposure for motion picture shooting using only ISO. 3 stops. tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Glad to hear that Olympus is alive and well and advancing M4/3. 7 minutes ago, Attila Bakos said: 10 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said: Anyone know approx. how many stops of exposure there is between 200 and 25 ISO? 3 stops. Yes. 25 > 50 > 100 > 200. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Exciting if they can pull off clean ISO 25 41MP stills. Looks to be a very photo-centric sensor design and processing. I wonder if this will be the EM1 Mark 3 or a high resolution variant. Will at least quiet the low megapixel complaints of MFT. That leaves lowlight performance. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Collins Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Video Hummus said: Exciting if they can pull off clean ISO 25 41MP stills. Looks to be a very photo-centric sensor design and processing. I wonder if this will be the EM1 Mark 3 or a high resolution variant. Will at least quiet the low megapixel complaints of MFT. That leaves lowlight performance. Although it does begin to raise the question of how many pixels on a smaller sensor is too much. The diffraction limit on a 41mp M43 sensor is f4.6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 15 hours ago, androidlad said: If my sources are correct, Olympus will soon announce a 41MP MFT mirrorless camera using a variant of this sensor: There will be 164MP high-res mode and ultra-low ISO25 mode. 'High-sensitivity', 'low power consumption' and 'variable-speed shutter function', seem to be the the take away here. So I guess we should expect much better low light, lots of new functions necessary in low power consumption devices like smartphones, some manner of HDR for photo (and video?) like on smartphones. Interesting. Though it doesn't seem to have 14-bit RAW photo, which I was hoping M43 moves towards. tupp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tupp Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, sanveer said: ... lots of beer functions... I would buy this camera just for the "beer functions!" sanveer, ntblowz and Emanuel 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, tupp said: I would buy this camera just for the "beer functions!" Hahaha. Sorry TYPO. I Edited that. The predictive text function is weird on my phone. Earlier everything was about sex, and now, luckily its some random word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I guess we might expect the same sensor for GH6. What video modes does it support besides 8k 24p? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Amazeballs said: I guess we might expect the same sensor for GH6. What video modes does it support besides 8k 24p? You may be right. The GH6 may do either 6k or 8k. I am guessing it would be 6k, because 8k may be too large a jump (too much of processing power and also may lose out on much better low light). Hopefully 4k at 120fps too. Though I wonder how good or bad the rolling shutter would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, sanveer said: You may be right. The GH6 may do either 6k or 8k. I am guessing it would be 6k, because 8k may be too large a jump (too much of processing power and also may lose out on much better low light). Hopefully 4k at 120fps too. Though I wonder how good or bad the rolling shutter would be. All of this doesnt matter for me if they dont add PDAF. They can go 16k or whatever. I am fine with 4k6010bit internal, but bring me PDAF, built-in ND and more DR. Thpriest and sanveer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Amazeballs said: All of this doesnt matter for me if they dont add PDAF. They can go 16k or whatever. I am fine with 4k6010bit internal, but bring me PDAF, built-in ND and more DR. I agree. DFD is absolute rubbish, especially with the lack of a ToF and Laser Focus. It can never replace PDAF, and in video the gap is even more apparent. I also want atleast another stop and a half of dynamic range, in video. Built-in Electronic ND would be superb too. Gandulf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 GH6 is probably more likely to use a consumer camera version of the rumored Sony IMX594CQR. Which is probably a quad Bayer design and offers more video modes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodlum Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 The IMX492LQJ would be of little interest to me due to the must slower 1/24s sensor readout. I hope they use the IMX594CQR with 1/120s sensor readout. I wonder what Olympus body this would be used for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 The GH6 will have no need for a 41MP sensor. A G10 or whatever they decide to call the G9's successor might though. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, newfoundmass said: The GH6 will have no need for a 41MP sensor. A G10 or whatever they decide to call the G9's successor might though. There is a g10, guess they have to skip that or use a variant https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panasonic_Lumix_DMC-G10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Ahh the G10. My all time favourite point and shoot camera. More control than many DSLRs or Mirrorless cameras, a tiny CCD sensor but at ISO 80 or 100 STILL takes photos competitive with many DSLRs (but rubbish much above that). Video is very limited SD though. Canon did this one quite well.....Keeping it as it was my late fathers oldest remaining camera. Sorry, I could not resist. If I can afford and find Pana G10 , I might give it a go just for the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origami101 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 So, from perusing Wikipedia, it seems this is a backlit (Exmor R), but not stacked (Exmor RS) sensor, unlike the IMX594CQR, which is backlit plus stacked. Curious why Olympus would go with this one when there seems a better and otherwise very similar one, which Panasonic’s choosing, available. Also interesting that both these m4/3 sensors are listed for surveillance. Are Olympus and Panasonic going to be propped up - that is, there being enough volume to justify future sensors - by a completely separate market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Origami101 said: So, from perusing Wikipedia, it seems this is a backlit (Exmor R), but not stacked (Exmor RS) sensor, unlike the IMX594CQR, which is backlit plus stacked. Curious why Olympus would go with this one when there seems a better and otherwise very similar one, which Panasonic’s choosing, available. Also interesting that both these m4/3 sensors are listed for surveillance. Are Olympus and Panasonic going to be propped up - that is, there being enough volume to justify future sensors - by a completely separate market? Androidlad might have more information. A lot of the M43 sensors from Sony are under the STARVIS brand which is their lowlight surveillance/industrial brand sensors. The sensors than are tweaked for commercial cameras by either Sony or by request from other brands like Panasonic or Olympus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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