Administrators Andrew Reid Posted December 5, 2013 Administrators Share Posted December 5, 2013 The GM1 is a mini GH3 with some rather interesting new technology under the hood (a sensor that does a full pixel 4.5K readout in silent shutter mode) for just $749 (with 12-32mm lens) - but could the unthinkable be true and it actually shoots better video than the GH3?Read the full article here earnesync and Ratguity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Panasonic do it again - another superb camera - Im sticking with them ..... I will be retiring my GF3 crash cams and replacing them with this. these small cameras are superb for mounting on cars , especially dash boards in the corners facing the driver where you cant get a big camera , also wing mirrors and front bumpers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c2dd7b52878779b55f43cc8c269267c1 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thanks man, nice review. Any chance of a few more photos of the GM1 with different lenses on it please (speed booster with a small prime would be great)? Oh and I'd love to see a z-finder on it LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sellington Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Does the GM1 have a sensor crop video mode? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 BMPCC and this GM1 makes a great pocket cinema package! The wireless video streaming/follow focus during recording to your tablet/phone is a great feature if you place the camera in tight/cornered place, don't think any other camera have this feature. jcs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiphunt Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Interesting. Thanks Andrew! I already ordered a D5300 that I can return for 45 days, but I'm thinking I may keep it and add a small/stealth GM1 or G6. Considering the G6 does 60P and is $250 cheaper... do you think the image quality of the GM1 makes up for the extra cost and features it lacks from the G6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grisnjam Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I've been reading this blog for 3 years and I just relised that this is the first time I've heard your voice! I am wondering if we will see a GX7 review as well? Same seonsor with very nice controls and EVF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I've been expecting a review for the GX7 from the video stand point for a while but since the insides are basically the same - except for some different tuning in the JPEG engines - can we expect the GX7 video to be at least as good - but with more options? It's weird. When Panasonic came out with the GH3 I was disappointed at the fact that it didn't have inside a new multi-aspect Panasonic sensor. As the one inside was the Sony one and it didn't even had multi-aspect, I concluded that for some reason, Panasonic couldn't get their sensor ready in time and neither they had time to ask a custom one from Sony. And this is probably the chip that should had been inside the GH3. When Blunty did a GH3 and GX7 side by side test, the rolling shutter on the GX7 looked better and so did the high ISO, which made me start to pay more attention to the GX7. And it's funny but a girl from my College also noticed the same thing, as we sat to chat the other day, we were both putting the GX7 as a possible future camera. The GX7 is a good all-arounder in several aspects, it's smaller than the GH3 but still seems to have a decent grip, take nice pics and make nice videos, I like the noise better than the one from Sony, in B&W the noise's "grain" looks even better. My biggest wish is to be able to use the IBIS in video, or better, if its successor actually feats a better IS. There are some tests that states that the GX7's IBIS is better than the 5-axis in some situations but I would really like to see what happens in video. If I shoot video, I won't have the whole rig and having any longer focal length to do handheld, the video won't look good, it will be very wobbly. This would make me use only Panasonic's optics in handheld situations, no legacy lenses with adapter and no Oly's lenses as well. I really liked the fact that Panasonic didn't hold back so much as they would usually do, I know it's not a cheap camera but Panasonic would normally use the G6 sensor or something like that instead of their brand new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastroiani Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Andrew, nice post! Thank you. I'm wodnering what do you think of GX7 video mode? Are they the same? Does GX7 do the full pixel readout as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
au8ust Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 What does the silent mode do exactly? Continuously take RAW/JPEG photos for a limited time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSUBVERSIVE Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 What does the silent mode do exactly? Continuously take RAW/JPEG photos for a limited time? Silent mode let you take pics with Electronic shutter instead of the mechanical one, so it's simply silent. As Panasonic chose to make such a small camera with the GM1, they had to change the shutter mechanism, which is limited to up to 1/500s, when you usually get at least 1/4000s in a normal ILC. Panasonic has been using this since years ago, those 40 or 20 fps that the GH/G cameras can take are done with electronic shutter. Just like mirrorless means getting rid of that mirror chunk and using EVF, electronic shutter is another step towards no mechanical limitation. But for that to be actually effective, it would have to be a CMOS sensor with global shutter. Without that, scenes with movement can present rolling shutter, just like in video. Actually a global shutter sensor would eliminate them both but the tech is still not there. There are very few CMOS with global shutter - like the F55 CineAlta camera from Sony. They are way more expensive and although Sony delivers it with that camera, it's very hard to keep all the progress made in the high ISO and DR. BlackMagic Production Camera will also feat a global shutter, but the camera will have 1 stop less of DR when compared with their other cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjones41 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Any chance the mechanical shutter can be disabled (left open) and one of the BMCC speed boosters could be used in crop mode? I realise you can just use the M43 speedbooster, but it would be still interesting to know if one of the BMCC ones did fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jurgen Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I'll be interested to mount one of these on my quadcopter and see how it performs as an aerial shooter. With no 60p it could get a little wonky but if I can get relatively stable footage of this quality I'll be immensely pleased. Great review, by the way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c2dd7b52878779b55f43cc8c269267c1 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 One more vote for a GX7 comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pascal Garnier Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 why would anyone buy this camera over a G6 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 why would anyone buy this camera over a G6 ? Because it weighs just 7 ounces and will be compatible with the new Mastor Tech Sailfish SF1 Gimbal ($600) instead of spending over $3,000 for a stabilizer for the GH3/G6. Also, because it's light, if you want to carry one with a wide zoom and the other with a tele zoom, it won't break your neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odie Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 so is this more the pocket version of the gh4…or gh3?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanWeddings Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 this is seriously impressive and makes me happy to be a Panasonic customer. over the last few years i've talked quite a few friends and family out of buying canon (it seems to be the only brand newbies buy), and into m43, and they've all been extremely happy. I still have my beloved gh2 even after buying two gh3s, but with a better pocket cannon like the gm1, maybe the time to retire the gh2 has finally come. nahua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcuswolschon Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 No 29min59s recording limit as a con for this camera when you compare it with the BMPCC? I think that's MAJOR con for all these unhacked photo cameras unless you can at least import a non-EU model that allows for PAL framerates (world-cam). Most of them are sadly NTSC only and thus don't work well in countries with a 50Hz power grid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest c2dd7b52878779b55f43cc8c269267c1 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 why would anyone buy this camera over a G6 ? Low light performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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