Zach Goodwin2 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I need to organize how I'll film the entire documentary I was given, but I am not so sure how, and it feels too complicated. I have everything that is needed, but I don't know how I'll film the thing. Do you all have any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyalinejim Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Decide on the style and format of the doc and then get those shots. - Interviews, yes or no? Who to talk to? Where? What questions? How should it look? - Voiceover, yes or no? If so, write the script for the VO and record it Once you have the interviews and/or VO you can put a rough edit in place and then you'll know what B roll you need to illustrate the points being made. And if you know some of this in advance you can begin to capture the B roll now, in which case you should also think about what style you want to shoot it in. Zach Goodwin2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimor Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, Zach Goodwin2 said: I need to organize how I'll film the entire documentary I was given, but I am not so sure how, and it feels too complicated. I have everything that is needed, but I don't know how I'll film the thing. Do you all have any suggestions? Do you sometimes feel that you record everything the same? That you choose the shoots always in the same way and that all your productions look similar? It's just what happens to me. What I feel the day "D". Zach Goodwin2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 sometimes, when you're making a doc, a NEW LEVEL OF NARRATIVE reveals itself as things move along...! keep an eye out! ? Zach Goodwin2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitanazo Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 i think you have to explaind more about the project. The first things you can do is watch good documentaries, watch some docs from chris marker, herzog and others documentalist. other things you can do is to start filming sketch, get your camera to the locations to do a "camera block"(idk how it is on english but is basically just try shoots on the location). do your homework and investigate, do preview interviews to the characters from your interview before you shot. Zach Goodwin2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 What do you know about the western three act story structure? What's you opinion on traditional story telling archetypes like protagonists and antagonist? Do you appreciate character development, the heroes journey, conflict, resolution, redemption? You don't need to follow these elements of standard narrative models, but I've found, for me, that it doesn't make sense to break or bend the rules until you understand them. Put it this way, do you think it would be likely to make an impressive painting if all you access to a tube of titanium white? Zach Goodwin2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Let’s keep it simple. You have 60s. So that’s 12 x 5s shots. No interviews - just 5s shots. You have to choose the 12 shots. It needs an introduction - so why not start at the town sign? What impression of your town do you want to convey? Is it peaceful and picturesque? Frantic? Modern or traditional architecture? Is the town best represented by day or night or both? It’s almost like sending 12 (moving) postcards. If you make the film and I watch it, what do you want me to think? Don’t try to shoot 12 perfect 5s shots in the field. Take extra and edit. But don’t take 30 mins of footage either as it’ll be too difficult to edit down. So do some forward planning - 12 “locations” (12 places to stick your tripod or stand or whatever). The time for thinking is over. Get out and do it. And post it here for us all to see. And ENJOY IT (or why bother...) leslie and Zach Goodwin2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Hang on.. isn't the question about how to FILM the doc, not edit it? If it's a case of FILMING it, then my suggestion is to: work out what are the things that are important to include (history of the location, history of key people, people's opinions, where is the drama?) include these key points in the interviews you do work out how you're going to show these key points - are you interviewing the right people, will you get shots of certain locations, do you need historic materials or footage, etc then work out what your constraints are, what is the most difficult aspect of the project? Is it a person, a location, the weather, scheduled events like festivals, certain natural phenomena aligned with the seasons, etc plan / schedule how to get your most difficult shots, and keep the easier ones as backups For example, if you're shooting an inside and outside film then you might be limited by the weather, so you can film outside on days with the right weather and inside when the weather is bad, or at key locations when they're available and interviews with people who are flexible in the gaps, etc.... Remember that you don't have to shoot things in order, and to keep your mind open and utilise the unexpected when it occurs. Zach Goodwin2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrsisson Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Whose the audience? What do they need to know? Then answer these questions: Where are we? What are you/the subject doing? Why are you/the subject doing it? And so what? (Or why should I care) Zach Goodwin2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 zach, what is the doc about? could u explain more? Zach Goodwin2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Goodwin2 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 Alright I planned out how to record this documentary: Introduction of Dadeville, 1. Slideshow images of Francis L. Dade 2. Video of Lake Martin 3. Video of people in Dadeville town walking or people working 4. Video of people fishing or boating or swimming in Dadeville 5. Video of inside of car plant 6. Video of the outside of a nice home Wickles Pickles, 7. Video of Wickles Pickles jar 8. Slideshow of the brothers who made the Wickles Pickles and picture of the factory of Wickles Pickles 9. Video of me eating a Wickles Pickle Renfroe's, 10. Video of outside of Renfroes 11. Slideshow pictures of father and son who owned Renfroes 12. Slideshow pictures of locations of Renfroe's 13. Slideshow picture of Renfroe's as Dadeville Foodland 14. Video of inside of Renfroe's 15. Another video of inside of Renfroe's Home Plate, 16. Video of outside of Home Plate 17. Video of inside of restaurant 18. Video of food in restaurant 19. Video of waitresses helping out 20. Video of cash register being used 21. Slideshow of people in store Sigger's Barber shop, 22. Video of outside of barber shop 23. Video of inside of barber shop 24. Video of memorabilia 25. Video of me getting my hair cut and being told to have a "blessed day" 26. Video of me walking out of store Floyd's Feed and Seed, 27. Video of outside of store 28. Videos of stock 29. Video of Inside of Store Places nearby Floyd's Feed and Seed, 30. Videos of those places PNC Bank, 31. Video of exterior of bank 32. Slideshow of history and previous locations 33. Video of drive thru and ATM machine 34. Video of people waving at camera Other Stores, 35. Video of other stores mentioned on list 36. Video of palm trees outside Eagle Gas Station 37. Video of exterior of churches 38. Video of other places mentioned in paragraph Conclusion, 39. Video of Dadeville sign 40. Video of Dadeville forests 41. Slideshow of weather report during summer 42. Slideshow of weather report during winter 43. Video of Dadeville sign kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Goodwin2 Posted January 7, 2020 Author Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, kaylee said: zach, what is the doc about? could u explain more? Oh, it's the documentary I was working on months ago about what my town is that snowfall suggested. I still may need some transportation to get to these place to make the documentary. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinegain Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Just saw this title and had to think of you. ? Maybe you can draw some inspiration, eh? Zach Goodwin2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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