Administrators Andrew Reid Posted January 16, 2020 Administrators Share Posted January 16, 2020 https://ymcinema.com/2020/01/16/the-cameras-behind-oscar-2020-film-made-a-comeback-and-red-enters-the-list/?fbclid=IwAR2lAXUko0GOvqLPBPYrba9Or8PEoUEfFVA55xE68wUY5YUOFKREAVoxIRM Great article Arri still king of the ultra high end, so no surprises there - but the variations in Arri (and the lenses) are the interesting thing! And 50:50 split digital / film in 2020. Film making a bit of a come back. Emanuel and greenscreen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Interesting chart, and you can draw broad conclusions from it: ARRI dominates! (but no surprise there) And film still has a presence, somewhat surprisingly. But be careful about drawing more detailed conclusions about the broader high end market, as 10 films is a very small sample size so your confidence interval would be massive. kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Interesting that the Alexa Mini is right up there. I would have thought that the Mini was a camera with more compromises than the larger bodied models and therefore was more of a specialist camera for lower budgets or more difficult shooting conditions (drones, highly mobile rigs, for mounting on vehicles, etc) but maybe I'm wrong? What limitations does the Mini have over the larger models? 1 hour ago, IronFilm said: Interesting chart, and you can draw broad conclusions from it: ARRI dominates! (but no surprise there) And film still has a presence, somewhat surprisingly. But be careful about drawing more detailed conclusions about the broader high end market, as 10 films is a very small sample size so your confidence interval would be massive. and although this is pretty academic as none of us here are really in the market for an Arri... be careful about causality - these films weren't successful because of the cameras that were used and we can't get the equipment and expect it to make us better. It's that the people who are killing it just happen to want to use these cameras. I remember once I was riding my mountain bike up a long and steep hill and I wanted to be going faster and changed down a gear without thinking about it, almost falling over because I could no longer keep up my pace. I realised afterwards that I changed gear because that's what you do when you're going faster, but of course, changing down a gear doesn't make you go faster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 hours ago, kye said: Interesting that the Alexa Mini is right up there. I would have thought that the Mini was a camera with more compromises than the larger bodied models and therefore was more of a specialist camera for lower budgets or more difficult shooting conditions (drones, highly mobile rigs, for mounting on vehicles, etc) but maybe I'm wrong? That was ARRI's intention, the Mini was going to be a specialist camera to shut out RED from stealing all those niche roles. (car rigs / drones / gimbals / etc) As RED was making a lot of headway into high end production (especially as gimbal / drone / etc usage became popular). I think it even surprised ARRI themselves just how popular the Mini became as a general purpose camera / A Cam. But it is easy to see why: Mini is more affordable for Owner Ops, and is lighter so can be used by smaller crews more easily. In recent years the ARRI Mini and Sony FS7 easily by far take the top two spots as the most popular cameras I've personally worked with on shoots. 3rd place I'd say is AMIRA. Tricky to say what is 4th, we're getting down to a point which is far far less common than the top two spots. I guess the URSA Mini. 5th place is even less common, probably a fight between Panasonic EVA1 / Panasonic Varicam LT / Canon C300mk2 / etc or even perhaps a mirrorless Panasonic GH5 / Sony a7whatever might be here in 5th place. Wouldn't know for sure, they're all far far less common for me to come across than a FS7 or ARRI Mini. 7 hours ago, kye said: I remember once I was riding my mountain bike up a long and steep hill and I wanted to be going faster and changed down a gear without thinking about it, almost falling over because I could no longer keep up my pace. I realised afterwards that I changed gear because that's what you do when you're going faster, but of course, changing down a gear doesn't make you go faster! Nah, you need EPO for those. kaylee and kye 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 *Data is based on 10 Best Picture and Cinematography nominees. And, coincidentally they have Exactly 20 cameras, figured in the total list. Meaning none seem to overlap, and everyone is using a different and yet, single camera model for their entire film? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 19 minutes ago, sanveer said: *Data is based on 10 Best Picture and Cinematography nominees. And, coincidentally they have Exactly 20 cameras, figured in the total list. Meaning none seem to overlap, and everyone is using a different and yet, single camera model for their entire film? No, there are 10 films exactly. (and 11 different cameras) Some used one camera, some used two or more. Quote 92nd Academy Award for Best Picture and Cinematography nominees “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”: Camera: Panavision Panaflex Millennium XL2, Aaton A-Minima, Arriflex 435. Lens: Panavision Anamorphic – E, C, T series, Cooke Varotal “The Irishman”: Cameras: ARRICAM ST, ARRICAM LT, ALEXA Mini, RED Helium. Lens: Cooke Panchro/i Classics Lenses and ARRI Ultra Prime “Joker”: Cameras: ALEXA 65, ALEXA LF, ALEXA Mini. Lens: ARRI DNA “1917”: Camera: ARRI ALEXA Mini LF. Lens: Signature Primes “Ford v Ferrari”: Camera: ARRI Alexa LF. Lens: Panavision Anamorphic lenses: C-Series and T-Series “The Lighthouse”: Camera: Panaflex Millenium XL2. Lens: Bausch and Lomb Original Baltars “Parasite”: Camera: Arri Alexa 65. Lens: ARRI DNA “Marriage Story”: Camera: ARRICAM LT and ST, ARRIFLEX 435. Lens: Panavision Primo Lenses Little Women : Camera: ARRICAM LT and ST. Lens: Cooke S4 and Angenieux Optima Jojo Rabbit: Camera: ALEXA Mini, ALEXA SXT. Lens: Hawk V-Lite 1.3x Anamorphic, Leica Summicron-C, and Summilux-C, Vantage One T1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaylee Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, IronFilm said: Nah, you need EPO for those AAAAAAAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAA ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 oh God, when will we see a EOSHD user with one in hands then? LOL : -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Emanuel said: oh God, when will we see a EOSHD user with one in hands then? LOL : -) An ARRI Mini? I'm sure there are a few EOSHD members who own one, there are lots of them out there, and tonnes of registered members of EOSHD. Just none of us active users own a Mini, I think there is a few slightly semi active ish posters who own an old ARRI Alexa Classic? I've seen it mentioned rarely, can't recall who though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, IronFilm said: An ARRI Mini? I'm sure there are a few EOSHD members who own one, there are lots of them out there, and tonnes of registered members of EOSHD. Just none of us active users own a Mini, I think there is a few slightly semi active ish posters who own an old ARRI Alexa Classic? I've seen it mentioned rarely, can't recall who though. No, I was mentioning the statuette from something shot on our mirrorless babes... ; -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 It would be interesting to see what other cameras all these productions used (if any). Hard to get angles/crash cam sort of stuff. Or maybe at this level that isn’t an issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I still recall when Slumdog Millionaire got them all and that Silicon Imaging camera was chosen as A camera... That made us all to dream about : -) http://www.siliconimaging.com/WP/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alt Shoo Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 6 hours ago, Emanuel said: I still recall when Slumdog Millionaire got them all and that Silicon Imaging camera was chosen as A camera... That made us all to dream about : -) http://www.siliconimaging.com/WP/ Interesting that the sensor for that camera was developed by AltaSens, the same company JVC purchased and made the sensor for the GYLS300. Emanuel, IronFilm and Kisaha 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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