Inazuma Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Hi @Brian Williams and anyone else who owns the camera If you have time I was wondering if you could do a quick test for me... I'd like to know how well it stablises video when the camera is held at a portrait angle. When holding it still and when doing slow movements. Most of my content is watched on phones so this is of interest to me. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Williams Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Inazuma said: Hi @Brian Williams and anyone else who owns the camera If you have time I was wondering if you could do a quick test for me... I'd like to know how well it stablises video when the camera is held at a portrait angle. When holding it still and when doing slow movements. Most of my content is watched on phones so this is of interest to me. Cheers As in, turning the camera 90 degrees sideways and shooting in portrait mode? Ok, I can do a test of that later tonight. Inazuma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josdr Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 On 7/9/2020 at 3:28 AM, Brian Williams said: Here's one more, with a slower move- I feel like I see micro jitters in 'IBIS- Boost Off' 'IBIS+DIS-Boost On' looks best to me. The jittering is visible even with DIS boost on.. I presume it may depend on the individual watching it, but I get the feeling that a frame is skipped... Fuji cannot seem to fix this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimP Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Just pulled the trigger on a T4/Ninja 5 package B&H has on sale. Haven't used IBIS before. It will be interesting to see how it goes, especially with the camera in a decently heavy rig. It seems like the performance is variable depending on the settings and lenses used. Same for auto focus. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Northrup was damning on the AF. Brian Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimP Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Nezza said: Northrup was damning on the AF. Northrup. Now that's funny. I'll go with Bloom's analysis, thanks very much. Brian Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, EphraimP said: Northrup. Now that's funny. I'll go with Bloom's analysis, thanks very much. Which was 'not as good as Canon or Sony'. Far from glowing, depends on the lens, 'I'd use other cameras'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgvro Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 If I should just start a whole thread just for the IBIS saga(s), let me know: I discovered today that even at identical focal lengths, the IBIS seems handle totally differently in shoot without lens mode now (I think on the old firmware it was the same in both modes) i.e. when you have a manual dumb adapter lens on the camera versus ANY native lens (not stabilised lens, I don't own any OIS lenses) When you have a dumb/not-electronic lens on the camera the IBIS is still a bit floatier (I maybe dare even say 'smoother'), when you let your movement cease, the sensor can be seen slowly coming to a stop afterward, a bit of extra movement trails on. Looks fine, at least for me, maybe just more used to this. BUT when you have a Fuji lens of the EXACT same focal length on, the IBIS is much tighter and doesn't continue floating in the same direction for that brief moment when you stop movement. It stops dead a bit quicker and, in my opinion, more robotically. This was the main change I thought I noticed with the newer firmware, I should note. But they never said anything like "we changed the IBIS performance but only for native lenses", did they? ((regardless of lens OIS)) This is both with or without IS Boost on, I'm starting to lose any/all sense of what difference IS Boost even makes any more tbh. And I'm not using DIS at any point. Again, NOT using any stabilised lenses either. Has anyone else noticed quirks with IBIS having a REALLY different feel to it across native vs manual lenses even at identical focal lengths? I did check the true FOV matched and all. I was testing with Fuji 18mm and the Pentax P110 little 18mm f2.8 I have videos but it'll take me a day or two to get those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Philip Bloom made similar observations that different lenses made a considerable difference to the AF. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgvro Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Well, if it's similar what I came across, I'm sure the manual lenses did 😅 seanzzxx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I hope Fuji can really tweak their AF. It needs to be more consistent. Hopefully they’ll take a loot at what Nikon did in the last couple of month, upgrading the NikonZ to a really strong AF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawshooter Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 AF and overheating are bummers with this camera. There doesn't seem to be a single mirrorless camera with APS-C sensor, IBIS, internal 10bit, reliable video AF (and no overheating). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, rawshooter said: AF and overheating are bummers with this camera. There doesn't seem to be a single mirrorless camera with APS-C sensor, IBIS, internal 10bit, reliable video AF (and no overheating). Overheating along with unreliable auto focus, unreliable IBIS, and Log having serious macro blocking issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rawshooter Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 1 hour ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Log having serious macro blocking issues. Never heard of that before you mentioned it - do you have a source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, rawshooter said: Never heard of that before you mentioned it - do you have a source? My own camera, I stopped using flog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 For those interested in IBIS performance. I would argue the A6600 does not have “steadyshot inside”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neosushi Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 8 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said: My own camera, I stopped using flog I haven't noticed that yet... Were you recording 10bit ? Also I think IBIS is pretty good with the last update. My only problem so far is AF, and I am not sure about overheating, I haven't heavily tested long recording situations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrunoCH Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 A music video shot on XT4 + Sirui anamorphic 50mm + Weebill S. F-log 10 bit H265, Editing FCPX, Color grading Resolve with RCM, without LUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 8 hours ago, neosushi said: I haven't noticed that yet... Were you recording 10bit ? Also I think IBIS is pretty good with the last update. My only problem so far is AF, and I am not sure about overheating, I haven't heavily tested long recording situations. Yep, its a killer. Only shows up in certain situations but when it does it makes footable pretty unusable at least to my standards. 6 hours ago, BrunoCH said: A music video shot on XT4 + Sirui anamorphic 50mm + Weebill S. F-log 10 bit H265, Editing FCPX, Color grading Resolve with RCM, without LUT Beautiful! Some micro jitters at the very start but very nice. BrunoCH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashit Tandon Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 There appears to be a new firmware update available. Can anyone check if this addresses the micro jitters introduced by the last update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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