Simon Young Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 7 hours ago, Inazuma said: Are you sure it can be turned off? It can be turned way down, more so than many other cameras I’ve owned. The Z6 produces a stellar image with loads of dynamic range in flat, unfortunately its only 8 bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Romero 2 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Geoff CB said: I own the camera, yes it can be turned off under the profile settings. If he used the FLAT setting with sharpening turned to 0 it would be a very different result. So if you turn the sharpening down / off, does the Z6 have more or less the same acutance as an a7 III??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay60p Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 What is the default sharpness setting in the Z6? In the X-T3 sharpness has an adjustable scale from -4 to +4, with zero as the default. He probably shot all his tests at that location at the default settings, then put them in the computer to see the results. If he didn't like his first results he'd have to go back out on location again, reset the sharpness levels on the Z6 to the lowest setting, as well as the other two cameras to get a fair comparison. More time and effort. Comparing cameras this complex is not easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Someone as experienced as Max I have a hard time believing he would have overlooked the sharpening setting. Would love to see other comparisons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 Just now, Inazuma said: Someone as experienced as Max I have a hard time believing he would have overlooked the sharpening setting. Would love to see other comparisons. I'd not be surprised. I am pretty sure he did a test(maybe it was another youtuber but they had equal experience regardless) and he left all the NR and Sharpness settings on default between like 5 different cameras. Really put some at a disadvantage. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FS670ES Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Max stated already couple of times that he uses default camera settings to show users what you get straight out of camera without any fiddling with settings. Unfortunately many if not most of Z6 videos on the web are using standard profile with this horrible over sharpening. Fuji X-T4 would be perfect but for me this AF pulsing and harsh exposure stepping in auto ISO are deal breakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay60p Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 There ought to be a law that these youtube reviewers include the Exiftool data from the shots they used for each camera, especially the maker notes. Post it below the video. For the X-T3 this displays a long list of settings including sharpness, noise reduction, film simulation, dynamic range development, saturation, ISO, aperture, lens, etc etc. in an original camera's .MOV file. (Transcoding looses the Fuji maker notes). https://exiftool.org/ There are lots of Exif viewers online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff CB Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Inazuma said: Someone as experienced as Max I have a hard time believing he would have overlooked the sharpening setting. Would love to see other comparisons. He always leaves the camera's on default setttings, also he doesn't set white balance, he uses the "daylight" or "cloudy" setting on the camera which each manufacturer sets differently. His excuse is that the "normal" person just leaves it on default settings, when anyone watching his channel should be trying to get the most that they can out of their cameras. Inazuma and IronFilm 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay60p Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (best part of the Exiftool site:) What People are Saying about ExifTool "In my experience, nothing but nothing is as complete, powerful, and flexible as Phil Harvey's exiftool ... I've never seen anything that's in the same ballpark for power." - dpreview forum "... it is the mother of all EXIF utilities; the BFG of meta-data extraction; the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster of EXIF tools ... This thing will suck the last bit of metadata out of whatever image file you throw at it!" - Open Photography Forums "... it is total fucking gibberish to me." - Reddit Linux Questions Brian Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jay60p Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 5 hours ago, FS670ES said: Fuji X-T4 would be perfect but for me this AF pulsing and harsh exposure stepping in auto ISO are deal breakers. I expect XT4 will have these same issues as XT3. Anyone coming from a prosumer camcorder to Fuji mirrorless for video will have this problem. If you are used to grabbing a camcorder to start shooting immediately with practically invisible auto focus & smooth auto exposure I'd have to say a Sony APS-C or a fixed lens mirrorless (or a phone) would be more to your liking. The Fuji can still work for you but you'd need to evaluate a few things first, deciding on the right aperture and ISO for manual exposure, and pre-focusing your subject manually or with one-time quick auto-s. This camera is great for the pros who want total control, and gives Hollywood quality 10bit 4k60p images the camcorder and the Sony APS-C can't touch. It requires more set-up but it gets easier with practice. And maybe someday Fuji will wake up & kill that stupid exposure stepping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 The AF pulsing seems to have been fixed on the XT3, have never used auto iso though, always got exposure manually not sure I'd trust any camera for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 4 hours ago, ade towell said: The AF pulsing seems to have been fixed on the XT3, have never used auto iso though, always got exposure manually not sure I'd trust any camera for that I've never experienced this AF pulsing but believe for those who have it's an AFC thing rather than an AFS? Also, I tend to shoot only short, static sequences (1" sensor 'camcorder', full manual for anything longer, locked off on a tripod) so again, maybe why I have not experienced/seen it myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 cam1982 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I sat through this video so you don’t have to, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news: the camera showed signs of overheating really quickly. Yes, they seem to be in a very warm climate but according to the reviewer warnings about overheating popped up within minutes. If this will be the case with the finished production copies, it will certainly not be suitable for any serious work. Ominous to say the least, especially since there are several reports about issues with the X100V as well, from overheating to misaligned focus rings. Shame on you Fujifilm. Emanuel, IronFilm and Brian Williams 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Yeah, actually I had already thought to buy one of this ; ) https://www.atomos.com/ninjav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Inazuma Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Could these sample videos be any more boring? Geoff CB and Simon Young 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted March 13, 2020 Share Posted March 13, 2020 They didn't hire filmmaker's this time, only YouTubers... 2020 launch ; -) For some reason you have the chicks there :- D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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