Trek of Joy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 20mp, 4k60p, IBIS, 12/20 FPS and so on. Its the a7s Sony doesn't want to build. If this hits the rumored $2k price point, it will be a big seller. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Yeah def. Announcing camera's way up front is kinda annoying though. When will this be released? Same for the komodo, we know its coming but its 9 months or so since the announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currensheldon Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Nice to know what is coming out, but it does put a lot of potential upgrades on freeze knowing the R5, R6, and Komodo are on the horizon. Those three cameras alone (not to mention a Cinema EOS camera with RF Mount) are reason enough to invest in RF mount for the foreseeable future over L-Mount, E-Mount, MFT, etc. Hoping the R6 basically has the 1DX III specs, but without the 5.5k raw to get the price point down. - 10-bit 422 internal 4k up to 60fps - 10bit 422 internal 2k up to 120fps Add in IBIS, newer longer-lasting battery compared to EOS R, dual slots, and this would be an awesome camera. R5 will be for ruggedness, pro shooters, photographers who need 40 megapixels, and for those who need 8K, but the R6 may be the better video option for those who do mostly video. Will probably be better in low light and have no-crop in 4k, both things the R5 may struggle with a bit more. Despite my love for Panasonic's S1 and S1H, hard to argue with the RF Mount and once the R5, R6, and Komodo are announced, that's the direction I'll probably be going. zerocool22, Juank, Video Hummus and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 I just hope the 4K will be solid without too much rolling shutter and that the IBIS doesn’t exhibit any warping when shooting at 24mm. And please no fucking overheating. How hard can it be? Fuji dropped the ball with X-T4. Video Hummus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Yeah also agree RF is the mount to go to. (also EF to RF adapters will work prolly great). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
currensheldon Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Yeah also agree RF is the mount to go to. (also EF to RF adapters will work prolly great). I can confirm that their adapters are amazing - EF lenses work like native on EOS R. And brilliant move to add in variable ND and circular polarizers in the adapter space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 The ND adapter is a god send, and better quality than most screw on ND too in terms of reflection and loss of contrast when shooting backlight situation. currensheldon and padam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 https://www.canonrumors.com/the-canon-eos-r6-is-still-scheduled-to-be-announced-in-may-cr2 R6 will still be announced next month as rumored. Hopefully it still have 422 10bit and clog like R5 do. It will be using a different sensor than 1DX III even thought both are 20MP. This is the camera that most of us will be afford to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hijodeibn Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, ntblowz said: https://www.canonrumors.com/the-canon-eos-r6-is-still-scheduled-to-be-announced-in-may-cr2 R6 will still be announced next month as rumored. Hopefully it still have 422 10bit and clog like R5 do. It will be using a different sensor than 1DX III even thought both are 20MP. This is the camera that most of us will be afford to get. R6 looks promising, I do not need 8K, if it has the features showed in the rumors plus 422 10bit, clog and DPAF, is the way to go for most of us. zerocool22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted April 23, 2020 Administrators Share Posted April 23, 2020 The rumours are a shame if true. I don't want a dumbed down R6. They should make it as good as the R5 but without 8K and with better low light performance. There is always room for a cheaper model in addition to the R6 like an R7 which sits above the original EOS R, without some of the fancy features of the new cameras. Juank and Video Hummus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 4k 60p and HD 120 are still not bad specs at all. No mention of RAW, I am guessing 10 bit will be on the table. People are still salivating over the 1DC, so I think this is pretty great even if its 8 bit 422, especially if its on the more affordable side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: The rumours are a shame if true. I don't want a dumbed down R6. They should make it as good as the R5 but without 8K and with better low light performance. There is always room for a cheaper model in addition to the R6 like an R7 which sits above the original EOS R, without some of the fancy features of the new cameras. If it's a new sensor, shouldn't a 20MP sensor be a lot better in low light then a 45MP sensor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: The rumours are a shame if true. I don't want a dumbed down R6. They should make it as good as the R5 but without 8K and with better low light performance. There is always room for a cheaper model in addition to the R6 like an R7 which sits above the original EOS R, without some of the fancy features of the new cameras. What did you expect? The R5 is the equivalent of the 5D series, and the R6 the 6D series, which is entry level FF. If the R6 has 4K60 that’s already great. And considering the specs announced on the R5 I think it’s hard to complain at the moment. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 minute ago, wolf33d said: What did you expect? The R5 is the equivalent of the 5D series, and the R6 the 6D series, which is entry level FF. If the R6 has 4K60 that’s already great. And considering the specs announced on the R5 I think it’s hard to complain at the moment. Isn’t the EOS R or EOS RP their entry level FF Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, wolf33d said: What did you expect? The R5 is the equivalent of the 5D series, and the R6 the 6D series, which is entry level FF. If the R6 has 4K60 that’s already great. And considering the specs announced on the R5 I think it’s hard to complain at the moment. But the R6 will have a dual card slot and the 6D never had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 39 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Isn’t the EOS R or EOS RP their entry level FF The EOS R is more Canon's one off failed entry into mirrorless. The EOS R is a joke in all regards. They might keep a RP or whatever as super low entry, I have no idea. All I am saying is the R6 is the equivalent of the 6D series. That doesn't mean they can't keep lower entry product lines. Juank and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 They might save the 4K120p for a up-sell option for the R5. Dynamic range and low-light performance will be the selling factors for which one works best for your needs...and price of course. Has me seriously thinking about moving over to Olympus for my MFT stuff and taking the dive into FF with the EOS R5/R6. Only thing I don't like are Canon prices...ouch. Only way Panasonic will get me to buy a GH6 now is if it has amazing AF...which is probably not going to happen. Olympus gives me good AF and a good 8-bit image (maybe 10-bit in a future firmware update). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Why the hell won't Panasonic invest in PDAF? With their new lens lineup I really thought the S1 would be the one to make the leap but no... arson519 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 9 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Why the hell won't Panasonic invest in PDAF? With their new lens lineup I really thought the S1 would be the one to make the leap but no... Patents? They should cross license something or pay royalties to get PDAF and indeed quit fooling around with other experimental AF systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 As the expectations because more realistic, it looks more and more clear that this camera will be a considerable step down over the R5 targeted at different users. It is much more simplified with a mode dial, and no top LCD (maybe they can add in a joystick since they did add that to the 90D as well) and it is how a 6D Mark III would be imagined in a mirrorless body with IBIS. So they can still make the 1DX III in a mirrorless body or maybe they will wait for the next generation of sensors and more complete lens line-up for that. Yes, they could be lowering the megapixels to the original 6D level, but with that they can add useful video features without driving the cost up too much. I also probably does not need Digic X for processing. I am betting will have 1:1 crop UHD 4k60p and the rolling shutter is going to better than the EOS R but not at 1DX Mark II levels. I also expect it to omit 10-bit and Canon Log profile (not great, but expected to differentiate it) So it would be 8-bit 4:2:0 H.264 IPB compression internally, and 8-bit 4:2:2 externally (like the EOS RP) It would not have DPAF in 1080p 120fps (like 90D or M6 Mark II) and I am not sure if it has it in all 4K recording modes either. It would also keep the EOS R "semi-protected" and as the cheap available option for people who want a B-cam with 10-bit 4:2:2 external Canon Log recording. Now the question is: are they going to limit the dynamic range of the sensor only for video usage (like the 1DX Mark II) and it will be much better for still images, or it is going to remain low to being with? Because it is still 6D-class camera, not a 5D-class like the R5, and they can keep the price as low as possible? For the longevity, it would probably be better it to cost more and have the sensor with the better dynamic range and Canon Log for video. That would step over the EOS R for video for sure and it's not that old yet. I guess many will be unhappy about most of this, but even with all this crippling it looks like a decent photo/video camera, it would have some the video feature set of the 1DX Mark II with more modern codecs, flip-screen, EVF, IBIS, it does have dual card slots, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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