Administrators Andrew Reid Posted March 18, 2020 Administrators Share Posted March 18, 2020 If Trump had his way he'd be making a profit on that $1 billion he offered the Germans Sharing out the vaccine around his rich pals Mercer you'd be fucking dead. And yet you're his cheerleader. Quite amazing. Emanuel, tigerbengal and Herb 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Herb said: That was the only positive thing you wrote about under his tenure. Please expand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, User said: How else is what you've said supposed to look? It's supposed to look exactly how I meant it in the full context of my statement. I understand cherry picking portions of a person comment is a great tactic in political debate, but I'm not a politician and I'd prefer not to play those games. PannySVHS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, mercer said: It's supposed to look exactly how I meant it in the full context of my statement. I understand cherry picking portions of a person comment is a great tactic in political debate, but I'm not a politician and I'd prefer not to play those games. Na man, your game is personal profit. And you are willing to look the other way while trying to excuse yourself. So you actually resemble... a particular politician that you support. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted March 18, 2020 Author Share Posted March 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, mercer said: has your life, negatively, changed since President Trump took office? That's a can of worms question in my mind. Lots of stuff attached to an answer. You mentioned economics. Well, for instance, I believe that supply-side ideologist are capable of making economies that do benefit citizens, but only for certain citizens. Inflating the wealthy's access to money demands cost be paid by the opposite end of the spectrum. It's a fancy pyramid scheme with pretty graphs. I think good old-fashioned supply-and-demand enterprise is by far more equitable and just. Witnessing how the supply-side canard has wreaked havoc among the working class over the last 40 years is an ethical disaster, imho. But because it's easy to hide behind bad-faith arguments supporting supply-side ideas it's a useful political tool. So yeah. Supply-Side. And how that keeps exacerbating the inequality of wealth in the nation is a moral failing of leadership. That's definitely one thing I don't like. PannySVHS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 25 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: How do Trump supporters feel about trying to steal the coronavirus vaccine from the rest of the world? Satisfied? Smug? Winning? You'll have to ask one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannick Willox Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 It is beyond me how any republican, democrat, libertarian, whatever could ever support that guy, who clearly has several personality disorders, and was not even a republican himself. The only party card he has is an opportunistic one. He is an open liar, opportunist, misogynist, racist, the list goes on. it is completely beyond me how one can support him, just based on the fact of him being potus. The thing I do not get is how people that can see this guy for what he is, get flamed, just because he got elected. It just shows how bad the system got, not only in the US, but the rest of the democratic world as well. It shows how badly this corrupted system has settled within all of us. we all have our mini trumps. It is still beyond me how anyone can defend them. .... News flash. Here in Belgium the situation seems quite controlled, people are following the severe restrictions well, and yet, the hospitalisations are DOUBLING every day. I think you all can see where this will lead us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, fuzzynormal said: That's a can of worms question in my mind. Lots of stuff attached to an answer. You mentioned economics. Well, for instance, I believe that supply-side ideologist are capable of making economies that do benefit citizens, but only for certain citizens. Inflating the wealthy's access to money demands cost be paid by the opposite end of the spectrum. It's a fancy pyramid scheme with pretty graphs. I think good old-fashioned supply-and-demand enterprise is by far more equitable and just. Witnessing how the supply-side canard has wreaked havoc among the working class over the last 40 years is an ethical disaster, imho. But because it's easy to hide behind bad-faith arguments supporting supply-side ideas it's a useful political tool. So yeah. Supply-Side. And how that keeps exacerbating the inequality of wealth in the nation is a moral failing of leadership. That's definitely one thing I don't like. And who changed Chinas trade deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 People who have voted for Trump have just done that. Not having voted for Hillary Clinton. Maybe, if the Democratic Party would have put up Bernie Sanders, people would have voted differently. The President of the U.S. has never been the nice person from around the corner, maybe Abraham Lincoln was and burdened by the cause of Civil War. Actually he was a great philosopher burdened with the decision to go to war against slavery. People have opinions. Just because some camerafans don´t support Trumps bending of truth, it does not mean they are holy spirits of endless virtue. My friend Glenn @mercer stands up for his decision during election. He does not promote Trump or defend him. He just stands up for his election choice. Leave it at that people or throw your disgusting 8k future video device and your other products of Chinese factory nightmare work in the ponds. Throw your stones against your garden fences and not at people. I don´t care for Trump but that does not make me a better person. We know the facts about him. No need to discuss it here over and over again. You are Spanish, shame on your Spanish empire, you are French, shame on your colonial empire, you are from Germany, shame on you for WWII. There is good and there is bad in people. Let´s not show our worst behaviour towards our dear friends here. And, let´s not act all that knowledgeable here about politics. Even some posts from knowledgeable people like Emanuel are so so in their rhetoric and contradictory approach. mercer and sanveer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 9 minutes ago, User said: Na man, your game is personal profit. And you are willing to look the other way while trying to excuse yourself... so you actually resemble... a politician. Na man, your game is personal insults hidden by "witty" memes. You know nothing of my life and what my "game" is. By all accounts, I am economically poor... not that it's any of your business. And I'm not trying to excuse myself of anything. I know who I am, what I stand for and what's in my heart. Can you say the same? How have your actions positively helped the world? How have your actions positively helped your community... glass houses... and all that shit. PannySVHS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Yannick Willox said: It is beyond me how any republican, democrat, libertarian, whatever could ever support that guy, who clearly has several personality disorders, and was not even a republican himself. The only party card he has is an opportunistic one. He is an open liar, opportunist, misogynist, racist, the list goes on. it is completely beyond me how one can support him, just based on the fact of him being potus. The thing I do not get is how people that can see this guy for what he is, get flamed, just because he got elected. It just shows how bad the system got, not only in the US, but the rest of the democratic world as well. It shows how badly this corrupted system has settled within all of us. we all have our mini trumps. It is still beyond me how anyone can defend them. .... News flash. Here in Belgium the situation seems quite controlled, people are following the severe restrictions well, and yet, the hospitalisations are DOUBLING every day. I think you all can see where this will lead us.... And before he ran for office, his friend Bill and Hillary and in Hollywood never called him a "open liar, opportunist, misogynist, or racist" Hillary got Trump elected and you can read whatever you want into that statement but it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, Yannick Willox said: It is beyond me how any republican, democrat, libertarian, whatever could ever support that guy, who clearly has several personality disorders, and was not even a republican himself. The only party card he has is an opportunistic one. He is an open liar, opportunist, misogynist, racist, the list goes on. it is completely beyond me how one can support him, just based on the fact of him being potus. The thing I do not get is how people that can see this guy for what he is, get flamed, just because he got elected. It just shows how bad the system got, not only in the US, but the rest of the democratic world as well. It shows how badly this corrupted system has settled within all of us. we all have our mini trumps. It is still beyond me how anyone can defend them. .... News flash. Here in Belgium the situation seems quite controlled, people are following the severe restrictions well, and yet, the hospitalisations are DOUBLING every day. I think you all can see where this will lead us.... Be safe in Belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightsFan Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 hour ago, mercer said: Sorry if I have offended you in some way, but I am very confident that I have been a voice of reason during my time in this discussion and open to other people's opinion, even if I disagree with them. If you have proof of otherwise... please share. I'd say that you're pretty reasonable, both here and in my other conversations with you here, though I do disagree with you at times. 46 minutes ago, mercer said: Now let me ask you a question... how has your life, negatively, changed since President Trump took office? To be clear, what specific policies have personally affected your life in a negative way. There are a couple points that negatively effect me. 1. The economy. First of all, stocks: yes, the stock market has risen quite a bit up until this crisis. For Americans who own stock, namely, above average income and wealth, that is great, but for the average and below average income, stock gains mean next to nothing. Second, the ballooning deficit, which has doubled since 2016. That's all debt that I, as a citizen, have a share in and which will be paid through raises in my taxes, or will result in a catastrophic default on loans years from now. Moreover, the deficit was created in order to "stimulate growth" and while stocks have risen, the national debt-to-GDP ratio has grown since 2016, meaning we are actually going into debt faster than the economic boost is taking us out--and that's even without considering all of those stock gains are going to the richest people in the country, and also before taking into account the recent crisis. And as a citizen, I will be paying to dig us out of this hole. 2. Climate. It's hard to pin down specific cause-and-effects between policy and tangible climate trouble. On average, we will see more frequent natural disasters, which cause damage that I could be directly harmed from, or will contribute towards paying for as a taxpayer and as someone who pays into the insurance system. While Trump might not personally be increasing carbon emissions, the opportunity cost of not taking action, and generally lending a sympathetic ear to climate change deniers negatively impacts us all. mercer and PannySVHS 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercer Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: If Trump had his way he'd be making a profit on that $1 billion he offered the Germans Sharing out the vaccine around his rich pals Mercer you'd be fucking dead. And yet you're his cheerleader. Quite amazing. How am I his cheerleader?! I have stated I support the President, as I supported his predecessor. I think the phrases support and supporter are getting confused here. You guys are acting like I attend his rallies. With that said, treating Trump like he is Hitler reincarnate is pretty effing stupid. PannySVHS and sanveer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, mercer said: Na man, your game is personal insults hidden by "witty" memes. You know nothing of my life and what my "game" is. By all accounts, I am economically poor... not that it's any of your business. And I'm not trying to excuse myself of anything. I know who I am, what I stand for and what's in my heart. Can you say the same? How have your actions positively helped the world? How have your actions positively helped your community... glass houses... and all that shit. I know of your life because you constantly post about it and the fact that you are (like many of us) financially poor. But are you also morally/ ethically poor? I've never thought you are an evil person and have always appreciated your comments and insights here. But what I just can't reconcile is how those who put their support behind someone like Trump can see the larger damage he is doing and don't realize that in the end they will be the ones hardest hit by him and his moral corruption and ethical bankruptcy. Short term profits give way to what? Towards your question on how I've made the world a better place, I could start by saying that I'm not supporting a pig fuck. But hey... why don't you respond to Andrew's comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, User said: are you also morally/ ethically poor? But what I just can't reconcile is how those who put their support behind someone like Trump pig fuck. What's a pig fuck? How is supporting abortion making you morally/ ethically rich? It's not about supporting trump like you say but it's about not supporting the other option. Hilary was Hilary and she wasn't electable or likable even though I think she would have done a great job. Not sure you can trust her. Biden would have been great 10 years ago but now he forgts what he was saying way to much. Sanders was great when he played for the Lions but that Bernie one defends Castro and socialism way to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 US Researchers Deliver First COVID-19 Vaccine to Volunteers in Experimental Test Program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerbengal Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 27 minutes ago, Super8 said: And before he ran for office, his friend Bill and Hillary and in Hollywood never called him a "open liar, opportunist, misogynist, or racist" Hillary got Trump elected and you can read whatever you want into that statement but it's true. Hillary server lives free in your brain idiot! this is not about her, it is about the idiot in the white house...wake up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Super8 said: How is supporting abortion making you morally/ ethically rich? How many fucking abortions do you think Trump has had? Are you really that dumb? He wants the vote of these backward assholes. 1 minute ago, Super8 said: Not sure you can trust her. Like you can trust Trump. 1 minute ago, Super8 said: Biden would have been great 10 years ago but now he forgts what he was saying way to much Yeah... and the lobby groups OWN him. 1 minute ago, Super8 said: Sanders was great when he played for the Lions but that Bernie one defends Castro and socialism way to much. Castro had a great dream that was impossible to implement. That doesn't make it any less great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigerbengal Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 Check this video it summarizes all the lies Dotard has been saying about the Coronavirus: how can you deflect this trumpers???? the videos are not real?, he never said that? https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/03/18/don-lemon-president-trump-politicizing-coronavirus-ctn-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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