PaulUsher Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: Thanks Paul I would like to try the Mitakon 65mm F1.4 on medium format, probably has unique look as well. That lens is £600 and probably worth a look for GFX owners. Thanks for the tip Andrew, I’m much more a video shooter... so I’ve barely graduated from the nifty fifty for stills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaMan Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Quote Stopped down to F2 it is sharp and punchy Now there's a phrase you don't hear every day. noone, Thomas Hill and PaulUsher 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 15 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: Thanks Paul I would like to try the Mitakon 65mm F1.4 on medium format, probably has unique look as well. That lens is £600 and probably worth a look for GFX owners. Hi Andrew, BTW, there is a Mitakon 85mm F1.2, and I think is available also in GFX mount. Not much info about it, reviews, etc. I always wanted to try one on my GFX 50R, never got to it.... Andrew Reid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 21 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: There is no pixel binning, not sure where you got that from - the 4K is a full pixel readout from 6K sensor. The 8bit RAW is not a major flaw, it's a major bonus. Try getting that out of an A7 III type for same price. No doesn't exist. The results are incredible. You just need to look beyond the bit-depth and trying to break the image. The fixed screen, lack of EVF and no mechanical shutter make the Fp the size it is. If these features are important to you, then you may be better off with a larger camera. You can add the loupe to the Fp LCD to make it into an EVF though. Who is the camera for? Anybody who wants a small affordable full frame camera with superb video features and image quality. I don't see 8-bit RAW as a "flaw" but your initial FP review made it sound like a disappointment: Andrew Reid: 8bit and RAW are not good bedfellows, when people tend to look at RAW, they’re attracted to the fact that it’s such a high bit-depth because of the dynamic range is one of the biggest reasons people use RAW, and 8bit curtails that (like in Magic Lantern in 10bit / 8bit modes) This was probably before you had time to spend working on the actual 8-bit RAW footage. So I take it your opinion has changed? I have no doubt 8-bit RAW beats A73 8-bit. But how does it hold up to 10-bit RAW? What about file size? I also noticed FP had a few more cine/video oriented picture profiles such as the O&T you showcase in the article. What is your opinion on these profiles? Its really hard finding good video profiles on consumer cameras. I can only think of Eterna & Leica's Cine as really good dedicated ones. This appears crucial for the FP as it lacks Log. Any word from Sigma about that btw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 2, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 2, 2020 Was talking there about the perceptions. 8bit and RAW clash in peoples minds. People don't usually shoot RAW to shoot at 8bit, do they? But when you look at the image, all is forgiven. It's great. As was Magic Lantern RAW at 10bit too. So no, we don't need 14bit or 16bit RAW. On the Fp, there is always the option of the 10bit RAW to SSD if you need to ramp up the shadows. On the Sony A7 III you don't have any sort of RAW at all, so I consider it a big bonus on the Fp to be able to do that, especially internally or to a cheap SSD without any need to invest in the Atomos monopoly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted May 2, 2020 Super Members Share Posted May 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Django said: I also noticed FP had a few more cine/video oriented picture profiles such as the O&T you showcase in the article. Desperate for any excuse to actually use my fP again, I've just gone outside to shoot this very quick, non-scientific and, indeed, slightly not focused on the ColorChecker test to show you the different profiles. I actually quite like the Portrait one as a flatter profile myself. STANDARD VIDID NEUTRAL PORTRAIT LANDSCAPE CINE TEAL&ORANGE SUNSET RED FOVEON CLASSIC GREEN FOVEON CLASSIC BLUE FOVEON CLASSIC YELLOW MONO buggz, Thomas Hill, noone and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 2, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 2, 2020 Nice test, nice colour. I do like that Portrait one, quite a wide dynamic range. Did you try it with a flat curve in the in-camera curve editor? I have a soft spot for the Teal & Orange and Foveon profiles. Very "Hollywood". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted May 2, 2020 Super Members Share Posted May 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Nice test, nice colour. I do like that Portrait one, quite a wide dynamic range. Did you try it with a flat curve in the in-camera curve editor? I have a soft spot for the Teal & Orange and Foveon profiles. Very "Hollywood". Any excuse to pick it up again ! Here are variants of the Portrait with the different Tone settings. PORTRAIT - NO TONE PORTRAIT - AUTO TONE (MILD) PORTRAIT - AUTO TONE (STRONG) PORTRAIT - AUTO TONE (MANUAL) With the manual one, I'd set quite a big boost in the shadows and the highlights and you can see here I was able to pull everything back even on a jpeg into something sensible. PORTRAIT - AUTO TONE (MANUAL) - GRADED One of the good things about the Colour and Tone functions of the camera is that they are both on dedicated buttons on the camera so you don't have to dive through menus to get to them which makes it easy to quickly tweak the curve for a shot. Adept 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethin Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Very similar to my Nikon 50mm f1.2, but with nobs on. Same slight swirly bokeh and field curvature. Lots of character. I love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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