Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 23, 2020 Administrators Share Posted May 23, 2020 At a quick glance it might be useful for people to see what's available that shoots 4K - everything stills-video (not camcorder), with a large-ish sensor and 4K video. Here's my list off the top of my head. I'll add to it based on your suggestions and I've missed! Full frame 4K Canon 1D X III Canon EOS R5 Canon EOS R6 Leica SL2 Leica Q2 * Nikon Z6 Nikon Z7 Nikon D850 Nikon D780 Panasonic S1 Panasonic S1R Panasonic S1H Sigma Fp Sony A7 III Sony A7S II Sony A7S III (Soon) Sony A7R II Sony A7R III Sony A7R IV Sony A9 Sony A9 II Sony A99 II * Fixed lens 28mm Full frame but cropped 4K Canon 1D C (1.3x) Canon 1D X II (1.4x) Canon 5D Mark IV (1.8x) Canon EOS R (1.8x) Canon EOS RP (1.8x) Leica SL (1.5x) Nikon D5 (1.4x) Super 35mm full width 4K (APS-C) Canon M6 Mark II Fuji X-H1 (slight extra crop) Fuji X-T2 (slight extra crop) Fuji X-T3 Fuji X-T4 Fuji X-T20 Fuji X-T30 Fuji X-Pro 2 (Firmware update) Fuji X-Pro 3 Fuji X-E3 Fuji X-A7 Fuji X-T200 Leica TL2 (no 24p, 30p only) Leica CL (no 24p, 30p only) Nikon Z50 Sony A6100 Sony A6300 Sony A6400 Sony A6500 Sony A6600 Samsung NX1 Micro Four Thirds 4K Olympus E-M1 II Olympus E-M1 III Olympus E-M5 III Olympus E-M10 III Olympus PEN E-PL9 Olympus PEN E-PL10 Olympus E-M1 X Panasonic GH4 (2.3x crop) Panasonic GH5 Panasonic GH5S (1.86x extra wide sensor) Panasonic G9 Panasonic G7 (2.3x crop) Panasonic G85 (2.3x crop) Panasonic G90 (2.3x crop) Panasonic GX9 (2.5x crop) Panasonic GX8 (2.5x crop, old model not recommended for video) Panasonic GX85 (2.3x crop) Yi Mi 2x crop 4K or more from APS-C sensor Canon M50 Canon 90D Canon 250D Nikon D7500 Nikon D500 Samsung NX500 Fixed lens and crop sensor Fuji X100V Canon G7X III Canon G5X II Leica D-LUX (LX100) Leica D-LUX7 (LX100 II) Leica V-LUX (FZ1000) Leica V-LUX5 (FZ1000 II) Panasonic FZ1000 Panasonic FZ1000 I Panasonic FZ2000 Panasonic LX100 Panasonic LX100 Mark II Panasonic LX10 Sony RX100 series (from M4) Sony RX10 series (from M2) Sony RX0 series Medium format 4K Fuji GFX 100 Hasselblad H6D 100C Hasselblad H6D-400c Leica S Typ 007 (Super 35mm crop only in 4K) Leica S3 --- List updated: 13th July 2020 No pro video cameras. Has to be a stills camera and be able to shoot 4K. Can be either DSLR or mirrorless. Hayk, Super8 and gethin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted May 23, 2020 Super Members Share Posted May 23, 2020 Leica D-LUX/D-LUX7 Leica V-LUX/V-LUX5 Nikon D500 Nikon D5 Panasonic FZ1000/2000/2500 Panasonic LX10/15 Andrew Reid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Canon 5D IV Leica Q2 Fuji X100V Sony A9 / A9 II Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 23, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Django said: Canon 5D IV Easy to forget that one. wind1414 and Django 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 A7s first version* *with external recorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 23, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 23, 2020 Nope. Has to be internal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Nikon J5 DOES but at 15fps it is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 23, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 23, 2020 We can leave off crap from the list, no point adding some of the lame ones. andrgl and noone 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bowgett Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Canon EOS 250D Nikon D7500 IronFilm and Andrew Reid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 A few to add: Hasselblad H6D-100c Hasselblad H6D-400c Leica S (Typ 007) Olympus PEN E-PL9 Olympus PEN E-PL10 Yi Mi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 25, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 25, 2020 Thanks. I think that's everything now? Time to get that features table done now. Something along the lines of: Crop factor: 1.5 Max "usable, clean" ISO: 6400 4K rolling shutter: 22ms Max codec quality: 10bit, 4:2:0, 400Mbit ALL-I and so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBobsPhotography Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 7 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Thanks. I think that's everything now? Time to get that features table done now. Something along the lines of: Crop factor: 1.5 Max "usable, clean" ISO: 6400 4K rolling shutter: 22ms Max codec quality: 10bit, 4:2:0, 400Mbit ALL-I and so on... Great initiative. I would also like to know whether 4k is acheived through supersampling/lineskipping/1-to-1 pixels/cropping. This can be just as informative as max usable ISO since it's often less subjective and affects both noise and moire. Video Hummus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: Max "usable, clean" ISO: 6400 Is there any objective measurement for measuring ISO? I always thought that a standard measurement would be a good idea, but reviewers just seem to use their own judgement, which of course isn't comparable between different reviewers. IIRC the broadcast standards quote specs but very few cameras ever get tested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I understand why you left it off the list, but I've taken some very nice photos with the Pocket 4k, and the 6k would be just as capable, if not more so with the extra resolution. I guess GoPro and DJI cameras don't count because of sensor size? Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Because they don't match the DSLR or DSLM/MILC/DMC concept or their market segment, I guess. The most funny is Panasonic has introduced the DC designation since GH5 at least, so a bit sorta media convergence today, I second the notice. Same here : ) Just posted half day ago how creative can end for hybrid use: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBR Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 The Leica Q2 does 4k in both 24p and 30p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzynormal Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I'm still somewhat amazed I could buy a 4k camera for under $300; em10iii refurbished. I guess 4K cheap won't be such a big deal in the near future, but right now it's kinda cool. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 2 hours ago, kye said: Is there any objective measurement for measuring ISO? Gain probably would be better. ISOs between cameras don’t tell the whole story. 3 hours ago, UncleBobsPhotography said: I would also like to know whether 4k is acheived through supersampling/lineskipping/1-to-1 pixels/cropping This would take research but would be very nice to have. As we all know, no 4K is a-like. 4K from a Fuji super-sampling from 6K isn’t the same as 4K from EOS R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Anaconda_ said: I understand why you left it off the list, but I've taken some very nice photos with the Pocket 4k, and the 6k would be just as capable, if not more so with the extra resolution. I guess GoPro and DJI cameras don't count because of sensor size? I've taken stills and used them as photographs, but it's not really the same. Pretty difficult to use video to sync to a shutter, or do astrophotography, etc, plus IIRC the Pocket cameras don't do short shutter speeds? ie, 1/500 or 1/4000 etc. I've also used a GoPro for taking photographs, but I also understand why it doesn't fit with this concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 25, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted May 25, 2020 I could put Blackmagic stuff on the list but then you'd argue why Z-Cam, etc. isn't there, and before you know it you've got RED and Arri on it. More simple to keep it to the same class of camera (DSLR / mirrorless / stills), the cameras the blog has always been for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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