IronFilm Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Z CAM E2-M4 @USD1,499 - Basically same as Z CAM E2 but without sync feature. - Exterior design same as Z CAM E2 Flagship Series. - Interchangeable MFT lens mount in standard package. - Optional interchangeable EF, PL and M mount. - Shipment will start first week of June. Z CAM E2 - the only model that supports multi-cam sync feature. - Price USD1,999 remains unchanged. Z CAM E2-S6 - Price changed from USD2,995 to USD2,499 Z CAM E2-F6 - Price changed from USD4,995 to USD3,999 All Z CAM E2 series will soon support direct RTMP, RTMPS and SRT live streaming, including but not limited to Facebook and YouTube, without going through a computer. With that price drop, I think the Z Cam E2 M4 is now more appealing than the BMPCC4K which is now only marginally cheaper. KnightsFan, andrgl and heart0less 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Mgee Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I applaud this race to the bottom. The real winner is us consumers. Andrew Reid, tweak and IronFilm 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Is this a dual ISO sensor though? also, external prores raw, and their internal Z raw hasn't matured yet. and P6K is still a lot cheaper than the Z 6K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 33 minutes ago, Kisaha said: and P6K is still a lot cheaper than the Z 6K Only because of the Pocket's price drop, if the Pocket6K hadn't had the price drop then they'd be the same price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted May 25, 2020 Super Members Share Posted May 25, 2020 The free Resolve license is another factor in favour of the P4K. Would be nice to have the option of the P4K being in that form factor though. Kisaha and andrgl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 35 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: The free Resolve license is another factor in favour of the P4K. Would be nice to have the option of the P4K being in that form factor though. Absolutely. for me having an office, it was a big deal to have the license. Also Braw starts becoming something of a mainstream option. So, the price is even lower in reality. @IronFilm yes, because that is why the Z lower their prices also! and, is it the dual ISO sensor? I ask because I do not remember. because without that feature, I would never have bought a m43 camera, the noise even in low ISO was too much for me, with the 3200 is just incredible and no problem against bigger sensored cameras. 3200 is the max I shoot anyway. To shoot Prores Raw you need an additional buy, and extra cost. I remember reading the Z raw being not as good at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBobsPhotography Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 I am considering Z-Cam E2-series for a new VR rig. I know they also produce dedicated VR cameras, but the ZCam E2 ticks so many boxes: -60fps -high dynamic range (Log/Raw) -high resolution -4:3 aspect ratio (Useful for VR) -sync -ability to adjust interocular distance (By being 2 units instead of 1) My main gripe is that they are physically a bit wide (91mm), which makes the minimum interocular distance quite large. It's also too bad that only the original E2 has the ability to sync. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBobsPhotography Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kisaha said: and, is it the dual ISO sensor? I ask because I do not remember. because without that feature, I would never have bought a m43 camera, the noise even in low ISO was too much for me, with the 3200 is just incredible and no problem against bigger sensored cameras. 3200 is the max I shoot anyway. To shoot Prores Raw you need an additional buy, and extra cost. I remember reading the Z raw being not as good at the moment. The Z-Cam E2 and E2-M4: Native ISO: 500 / 2500 ( http://www.z-cam.com/e2/ http://www.z-cam.com/e2-m4/) The full frame Z-Cam E2-F6: Dual Native ISO: 400 / 2500 ( http://www.z-cam.com/e2-f6/ ) Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 1 minute ago, UncleBobsPhotography said: The Z-Cam E2 is Native ISO: 500 / 2500 ( http://www.z-cam.com/e2/ ) The full frame Z-Cam E2-F6: Dual Native ISO: 400 / 2500 ( http://www.z-cam.com/e2-f6/ ) so it isn't the same sensor as the P4K/GH5S, which is a huge minus for me. Do you know in what other camera the E2 sensor is used? maybe GH5? for me GH5 presents noise for very low ISO, a workhorse of a camera, but the reason I didn't buy one was that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kisaha said: and, is it the dual ISO sensor? I ask because I do not remember. because without that feature, I would never have bought a m43 camera, the noise even in low ISO was too much for me, with the 3200 is just incredible and no problem against bigger sensored cameras. 3200 is the max I shoot anyway. E2 (and I presume E2 M4) is assumed to share the "same" sensor as in the GH5S and BMPCC4K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kisaha Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just now, IronFilm said: E2 (and I presume E2 M4) is assumed to share the "same" sensor as in the GH5S and BMPCC4K Sorry, I have been confused, it IS dual ISO then, just 2500 and not 3200, that is good too I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 Just rating it differently I think? I'm pretty sure they're all using the "same" sensor (Sony IMX294), along with the Terra 4K too. Trying to dig up now where I read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 ha! Of course, I probably read it here on EOSHD: (quite likely I read it elsewhere too, others have also said they share the same sensor) Kisaha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 Does this also apply to the E2c? I can't see anywhere that it does. That's already very inexpensive for what it is - cheapest 4k raw camera available (I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 57 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said: Does this also apply to the E2c? I can't see anywhere that it does. That's already very inexpensive for what it is - cheapest 4k raw camera available (I think) I guess technically not completely 100% price drops across the board, E2C seems to be excluded and is remaining the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranciscoB Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 It's too bad the audio is an aftertought on this cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted May 25, 2020 Administrators Share Posted May 25, 2020 4 hours ago, IronFilm said: Z CAM E2-M4 @USD1,499 - Basically same as Z CAM E2 but without sync feature. - Exterior design same as Z CAM E2 Flagship Series. - Interchangeable MFT lens mount in standard package. - Optional interchangeable EF, PL and M mount. - Shipment will start first week of June. Cheaper than an X-T3 at launch. 4 hours ago, IronFilm said: Z CAM E2-S6 - Price changed from USD2,995 to USD2,499 Bargain alert! Much more capable specs than the Pocket 6K. 4 hours ago, IronFilm said: Z CAM E2-F6 - Price changed from USD4,995 to USD3,999 With that price drop, I think the Z Cam E2 M4 is now more appealing than the BMPCC4K which is now only marginally cheaper. Don't forget the cost of the screen and cage though. tweak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 If this happened at the releasedate I would have ordered a F6. But now I am glad I didnt, there is almost no good footage out yet. + the R5 or R6 might be crazy good. (as the 5D III ML RAW, is still one of my fav images, only DR and slowmotion options were limited) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted May 25, 2020 Share Posted May 25, 2020 WOW! The M4 is the swiss army knife of E2's - and I love how aggressive the Zcam team is adding features and options. They have the E-ND mount, m43, EF and so on - plus they're introducing their own speedbooster. At $1500 this is seriously tempting. Chris IronFilm and andrgl 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted May 25, 2020 Author Share Posted May 25, 2020 52 minutes ago, FranciscoB said: It's too bad the audio is an aftertought on this cameras. Go dual system! 39 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Don't forget the cost of the screen and cage though. You could skip the cage, and just use your own phone as a screen. (or a cheap sub $200 monitor. Many people use an external monitor with their BMPCC4K anyway) 5 minutes ago, Trek of Joy said: WOW! The M4 is the swiss army knife of E2's - and I love how aggressive the Zcam team is adding features and options. They have the E-ND mount, m43, EF and so on - plus they're introducing their own speedbooster. At $1500 this is seriously tempting. They are going hard in making sure there are lots of accessories too! tweak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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