Popular Post Cosimo Posted June 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 4, 2020 Matching different cylinders glass from different anamorphic scope is equivalent of a cylindrical Galilean telescope running backwards, finding a match with different systems that meet the afocal condition. Here are few prototypes I put together and some sample shots. I hope you like, thanks! . Jim Chang, tweak, JordanWright and 11 others 12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Awesome! Now if you could explain a bit more to the clueless:) Beautiful images. What camera did you use? Out of likes for today. Cosimo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo Posted June 4, 2020 Author Share Posted June 4, 2020 3 hours ago, PannySVHS said: Awesome! Now if you could explain a bit more to the clueless:) Beautiful images. What camera did you use? Out of likes for today. Thanks very much, In short, what I do is experimenting with anamorphic glass using the 35mm and 16mm projector scopes. Once the glass has been extracted out its original body from different anamorphic lenses I combine and mix them, finding a match with different systems that meet the afocal condition. That is parallel light in/ parallel light out, ending up with a completely different scope in terms of compression ratio, IQ, character, multi-colors in the horizontal artifacts and structure (dimensions). The process is quite tiring and time-consuming. The first photos show 3 Schneider Cinelux-based hybrid prototypes fixed at infinity, without focus ring. These hybrids will fit inside a FVD focusing now is possible from minimum to infinity. I have made other interesting combinations with very large front glasses such as front 35Nap and front HI FI 2 which have been cut to the right diameter matched with the right rear glass re-housed and ready to enter the FVD. There is much more to say but I don't want bore you. I am on full frame sensor 5D3. job, heart0less and leslie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweak Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Haven't heard from you in a while man! Hope all is good! Scopes are looking fresh!!! Cosimo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 9 hours ago, tweak said: Haven't heard from you in a while man! Hope all is good! Scopes are looking fresh!!! all good man, thanks! heart0less and tweak 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Cinelux front glass/ Moller 32 rear glass 1.6X with Lomo block 75mm on FF sensor. PannySVHS, leslie, Vladimir and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 8 hours ago, Cosimo said: Cinelux front glass/ Moller 32 rear glass 1.6X with Lomo block 75mm on FF sensor. nice colours, quite vibrant i think. i guess some of it comes from the grading but the lenses still have some input into the outcome. I do like this combination however i'm not sure about the multiple horizontal flares on your earlier post.What sort of flaring do you get with this combination ? I hope your not paying full price for these lenses to break apart ? Cosimo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 @Cosimo, beautiful rendering of light. Now show us some moving images please, if you have a chance to. cheers Cosimo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 13 hours ago, leslie said: nice colours, quite vibrant i think. i guess some of it comes from the grading but the lenses still have some input into the outcome. I do like this combination however i'm not sure about the multiple horizontal flares on your earlier post.What sort of flaring do you get with this combination ? I hope your not paying full price for these lenses to break apart ? Thanks Leslie! To be honest I also had some doubt about the multiple horizontal flares, I have contacted Mr Dan Sasaki Panavision optical engineer to have an opinion about my scopes and my experiments. I had a lovely chat with the guy. You can read the answer on the screenshot I have attached from my private messenger .There is no grading at all in the photo I 've posted. No I haven't paid full price for my lenses , it is an early investment I did when the anamorphics weren't so expensive like in these days,, I am glad I did though, most of these were quite cheap as well since they had small issues. This is a quick flare test I did quite long time ago with this scope heart0less and Vladimir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 7 hours ago, PannySVHS said: @Cosimo, beautiful rendering of light. Now show us some moving images please, if you have a chance to. cheers Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Cosimo said: Thanks Leslie! To be honest I also had some doubt about the multiple horizontal flares, I have contacted Mr Dan Sasaki Panavision optical engineer to have an opinion about my scopes and my experiments. I had a lovely chat with the guy. You can read the answer on the screenshot I have attached from my private messenger .There is no grading at all in the photo I 've posted. No I haven't paid full price for my lenses , it is an early investment I did when the anamorphics weren't so expensive like in these days,, I am glad I did though, most of these were quite cheap as well since they had small issues. This is a quick flare test I did quite long time ago with this scope my mistake, i was thinking the image was from a frame of a clip, not a photo from a full frame. I hadn't really connected the dots so to speak. Of course now that i have reread everything not having to grade and having such colours, it makes sense. Still its a nice image (no pun intended) that flaring is pretty bold, not sure it would grow on me. I do have a nap 35 pulled apart sitting in a box, maybe i need to keep an eye out for another broken anamorphic to play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 5 hours ago, leslie said: my mistake, i was thinking the image was from a frame of a clip, not a photo from a full frame. I hadn't really connected the dots so to speak. Of course now that i have reread everything not having to grade and having such colours, it makes sense. Still its a nice image (no pun intended) that flaring is pretty bold, not sure it would grow on me. I do have a nap 35 pulled apart sitting in a box, maybe i need to keep an eye out for another broken anamorphic to play with. No worries, and good luck with your 35Nap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart0less Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 5 hours ago, leslie said: I do have a nap 35 pulled apart sitting in a box, maybe i need to keep an eye out for another broken anamorphic to play with. You can always 'rehouse' it with some 3D printed elements - this makes it much lighter and more manageable. @Cosimo, I'm in awe with your hybrids. Even more because many of them are based on my favorite anamorphic scope - Schneider Cinelux. I just can't get enough of this gorgeous images. Please, keep them coming! Cosimo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, heart0less said: You can always 'rehouse' it with some 3D printed elements - this makes it much lighter and more manageable. Digressing abit, a 3d printer would be cool, spent years running cnc machines, was learning a water jet cutter before corona virus, but thats fallen by the wayside. I have a powerful need to get a rapido fvd16a next. So that is what any spare money is going towards at the moment. If i get back onto a waterjet I'd be tempted to throw the nap 35 lenses under it and resize them to something a bit more convenient Probably just enough to have them fit the rapido fvd16. No idea how that would work in reality but the nap was pretty cheap, i'd sacrifice it in the name of science Cosimo, Bold and heart0less 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 9 hours ago, leslie said: Digressing abit, a 3d printer would be cool, spent years running cnc machines, was learning a water jet cutter before corona virus, but thats fallen by the wayside. I have a powerful need to get a rapido fvd16a next. So that is what any spare money is going towards at the moment. If i get back onto a waterjet I'd be tempted to throw the nap 35 lenses under it and resize them to something a bit more convenient Probably just enough to have them fit the rapido fvd16. No idea how that would work in reality but the nap was pretty cheap, i'd sacrifice it in the name of science yeah cool idea, I did cut the HI FI 2 and the 35Nap to 70mm diameter to fit inside the FVD, then used both front glass and mixed with other rear glass. Among the pictures I posted above you can see the 1.75X still which is a mix of the 35Nap and Moller 46 rear and the HI fi 2 front mixed with the rectimascop 48, fixed at infinity with the single focus ability. Quick focus video test of the Hi FI 2 front with the rectimascop 48. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Cosimo said: yeah cool idea, I did cut the HI FI 2 and the 35Nap to 70mm diameter to fit inside the FVD, then used both front glass and mixed with other rear glass. Among the pictures I posted above you can see the 1.75X still which is a mix of the 35Nap and Moller 46 rear and the HI fi 2 front mixed with the rectimascop 48, fixed at infinity with the single focus ability. Quick focus video test of the Hi FI 2 front with the rectimascop 48. i do like the images your getting. How did you cut the glass ? i'm guessing a diamond blade on a 5 inch grinder ? By the way you should enroll that kid in drama classes you've got a budding actress on your hands 😀 Cosimo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 On 6/18/2020 at 2:31 AM, leslie said: By the way you should enroll that kid in drama classes you've got a budding actress on your hands 😀 very true!!! thanks man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokkimort Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 No offense, but this is pointless. I mean, maybe if you have too much time on quarantine it's an interesting hobby, but it looks like you simply ruined schneider cinelux lenses. Any cheap sankor lens can do much better than this, with nice waterfall background. Get yourself a good cinelux and it will be a proper lens with good image, that won oscar. I don't know what's a point in these, they look hacked together, not suitable even for lowest budget indie productions. I don't think any DP would put that on their camera. Maybe you should look at Rapido Technologies, they make good products like cases for anamorphics with engravings. etc. They still don't look very good, just a dull black pipe, but anything would look better than this. I think this would scare away any model or client when they see it in front of the camera. Maybe that explains why you only photograph kids and have no serious work to show with these. Bold, Cosimo, Grimor and 6 others 1 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 7 hours ago, rokkimort said: No offense, but this is pointless. I mean, maybe if you have too much time on quarantine it's an interesting hobby, but it looks like you simply ruined schneider cinelux lenses. Any cheap sankor lens can do much better than this, with nice waterfall background. Get yourself a good cinelux and it will be a proper lens with good image, that won oscar. I don't know what's a point in these, they look hacked together, not suitable even for lowest budget indie productions. I don't think any DP would put that on their camera. Maybe you should look at Rapido Technologies, they make good products like cases for anamorphics with engravings. etc. They still don't look very good, just a dull black pipe, but anything would look better than this. I think this would scare away any model or client when they see it in front of the camera. Maybe that explains why you only photograph kids and have no serious work to show with these. Seems like your the one that's been cooped up too long,.... We do this because we can. There is no right or wrong, there is only the image aesthetic. If it doesn't please you go someplace else. Rapido sure do make some nice kit, i plan on getting the fvd16 fairly soon. Having said that i bet that rapido's first few efforts were not exactly exhilarating to look at either. On set it wouldn't surprise me what a DP' would do to get an image. So long as it doesn't fall apart and kill some poor sod who cares what it looks like. Your last comment is just mean and spiteful. Everyone has been cooped up for the last three months, cosimo is fortunate to have some kids that are happy enough to be involved. PannySVHS, heart0less, Cosimo and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosimo Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 17 hours ago, rokkimort said: No offense, but this is pointless. I mean, maybe if you have too much time on quarantine it's an interesting hobby, but it looks like you simply ruined schneider cinelux lenses. Any cheap sankor lens can do much better than this, with nice waterfall background. Get yourself a good cinelux and it will be a proper lens with good image, that won oscar. I don't know what's a point in these, they look hacked together, not suitable even for lowest budget indie productions. I don't think any DP would put that on their camera. Maybe you should look at Rapido Technologies, they make good products like cases for anamorphics with engravings. etc. They still don't look very good, just a dull black pipe, but anything would look better than this. I think this would scare away any model or client when they see it in front of the camera. Maybe that explains why you only photograph kids and have no serious work to show with these. let off steam, remember to clean up when you're done. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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