Administrators Andrew Reid Posted June 23, 2020 Administrators Share Posted June 23, 2020 Somebody leaked the images to 43rumors. It is in the style of a Canon G1 X Mark III Impressively small and light, 300g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 9 hours ago, Kisaha said: 4K24p/30p, full HD to 120fps Odd not 4K60p, when any smartphone without mention Osmo Pocket and alike have it... deezid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanRevert Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Odd not 4K60p, when any smartphone without mention Osmo Pocket and alike have it... Yep, sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 Honestly looks like a LUMIX Alpha (DfD edition!) but with competent IBIS. Not sure why you would buy this over ZV-1 if it doesn’t have 10-bit vlogl. EM5III seems like a better buy. deezid and ntblowz 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 hours ago, no_connection said: Big question is if there is a limit somewhere and if it can record "indefinitely" with USB power (if that is possible). That is how I read that spec as well, that it was the limit based upon battery life. (and not the limit based on firmware, that is still unknown... hopefully unlimited?? And hopefully USB powering!! I'd hope all 2020 cameras have that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 6 hours ago, hoodlum said: Darn it! Clearly the tripod-grip DMW-SHGR1 is a hardwired devices, had hoped it would operate remotely over bluetooth 2 hours ago, Video Hummus said: Not sure why you would buy this over ZV-1 The Sony doesn't have interchangeable lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Williams Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Video Hummus said: Honestly looks like a LUMIX Alpha (DfD edition!) but with competent IBIS. Not sure why you would buy this over ZV-1 if it doesn’t have 10-bit vlogl. EM5III seems like a better buy. It doesn’t even have IBIS it turns out, just some hybrid EIS+OIS system. IronFilm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 body is only 303g, that is very light with EVF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanRevert Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, ntblowz said: body is only 303g, that is very light with EVF About same weight as ZV-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeys Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: Somebody leaked the images to 43rumors. Impressively small and light, 300g. Judging from the rear of the camera and the specs, it's a re-worked GF9/GF10/GX850; so no IBIS. Sad, I really wanted a compact m4/3 camera with IBIS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 2 hours ago, leeys said: Judging from the rear of the camera and the specs, it's a re-worked GF9/GF10/GX850; so no IBIS. Sad, I really wanted a compact m4/3 camera with IBIS! E-PL series is the the smallest with IBIS definitely a gx850 with VF size wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 I wonder if it will have the same impact with the youtube shills as the zv1 i.e. 1000 videos drop at once from the likes of Phillip Bloom, that tech channel which exclusively reviews apple products, the fashion blogger that sony paid et cetera et cetera. tweak 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Brian Williams said: It doesn’t even have IBIS it turns out, just some hybrid EIS+OIS system. SAD!! That's a big fat no from me. Without IBIS it can't stack up in my eyes as an alternative to the Panasonic G85. 1 hour ago, Yurolov said: I wonder if it will have the same impact with the youtube shills as the zv1 i.e. 1000 videos drop at once from the likes of Phillip Bloom, that tech channel which exclusively reviews apple products, the fashion blogger that sony paid et cetera et cetera. Nah, Panasonic doesn't have the reach/desire/motivation/momentum/drive to give the same degree of big marketing push as Sony does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no_connection Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 If it had 60p I could maybe forgive not having IBIS but 30p and no IBIS is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Videos are starting to drop and woof, a big swing and a miss. Really unfortunate. IronFilm and noone 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 My god, Panasonic outdone themselves on this one. Was really interested in this camera - the attention to the audio part could make it a perfect concert recording camera. But what they presented: - As it offers V-Log, expected that the 1,26x crop of the GX9 was not present. Nah, there it is. - To put even more shit over the top of the cake, the camera have no IBIS, instead uses EIS, with ADDITIONAL 4k crops, as bad as 1,76x with the best IS mode. - Horrible ergos, buttons scattered on top of the camera, cheap move of not offering a rear dial; - 10 min 4k limit; Honorable only mentions, a very bright and hig res LCD, and a big EVF (Dpreview says it is field sequential, others said that not - but even Dpreview, that hates field sequential, said that tearing was not an issue). The positional audio looks clever too, but the mic opening does not look good for teh capsules quality. Incompetence is what will kill m4/3. Management blindness (almost always underdelivering, the opposite of Fuji, for example), technical stubborness (Olympus: the insane menus, ages to make spot metering coupled with AF point, no option to have camera level AND histogram in the same screen, Mysets confusion, two buttons to engage peaking AND enlarged view / Panasonic: ages to adopt IBIS, idiot crops in smaller cameras, mic inputs in few cameras, field sequential EVFs, crippling record times, bad dials in smaller cameras, mics getting worse, refuse to let DFD go), and not listening to their customers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, Márcio Kabke Pinheiro said: My god, Panasonic outdone themselves on this one. Was really interested in this camera - the attention to the audio part could make it a perfect concert recording camera. But what they presented: - As it offers V-Log, expected that the 1,26x crop of the GX9 was not present. Nah, there it is. - To put even more shit over the top of the cake, the camera have no IBIS, instead uses EIS, with ADDITIONAL 4k crops, as bad as 1,76x with the best IS mode. - Horrible ergos, buttons scattered on top of the camera, cheap move of not offering a rear dial; - 10 min 4k limit; Honorable only mentions, a very bright and hig res LCD, and a big EVF (Dpreview says it is field sequential, others said that not - but even Dpreview, that hates field sequential, said that tearing was not an issue). The positional audio looks clever too, but the mic opening does not look good for teh capsules quality. Incompetence is what will kill m4/3. Management blindness (almost always underdelivering, the opposite of Fuji, for example), technical stubborness (Olympus: the insane menus, ages to make spot metering coupled with AF point, no option to have camera level AND histogram in the same screen, Mysets confusion, two buttons to engage peaking AND enlarged view / Panasonic: ages to adopt IBIS, idiot crops in smaller cameras, mic inputs in few cameras, field sequential EVFs, crippling record times, bad dials in smaller cameras, mics getting worse, refuse to let DFD go), and not listening to their customers. Contrast this attitude with smaller Chinese companies like z-cam who have a ceo answering questions on Facebook and improving their cameras based on user suggestions. No usb-c just goes to show how slow and outdated some of these Japanese companies are. heart0less and IronFilm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 33 minutes ago, Yurolov said: Contrast this attitude with smaller Chinese companies like z-cam They also have a m43 raw-shooting cine camera for the same price(ish) as this camera. I know it's different markets, but jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Yurolov said: Contrast this attitude with smaller Chinese companies like z-cam who have a ceo answering questions on Facebook and improving their cameras based on user suggestions. No usb-c just goes to show how slow and outdated some of these Japanese companies are. Fuji do a better, if not perfect, job in this regard, too. People asked for a video / photo switch to separate the modes, got in the XT-4. Asked for IBIS, got in the XT-4. And in the XT-3 and XT-30 the specs delivered surpased the initial expectations - when in the m43 world always there are a lot of caveats, probably with the exception of the GH line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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