zerocool22 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I want A7S III to have at least 10bit, internal raw of some sort would be great(but I guess if their FS7 and FX9 can't do it, this little one for sure cant). +240fps. Downside with the A7S will be the AF (with EF lenses), not a huge deal for me. But that R5 autofocus does look kinda handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 13 minutes ago, wolf33d said: What a joke if true. 12mpx sensor and no quad bayer? I guess we will find out soon. if that’s the case they will loose tons of customers starting with me. A lot of people want a do it all camera for photo and video. 12mpx is not enough, so people will take the R5 or R6. You can always get a second body of A73 or a73r or a74r - or you might already have one if you are a Sony shooter. Sony cameras are ligth and compact. For me it doesnt sound like a big problem. I hate fiddling taking off ND filters from my video camera anyway. Ofc, even 12\48 mp Bayer sensor would be better. I still might go with R6 cos of the IBIS. Sony IBIS is crap for video. Doubt they will substantially improve it. But if Sony manages to stick in built-in NDs.. than it will be a hard choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Looks like a stacked 12MP sensor (could potentially be quad-bayer but unlikely stacked and quad). Same tech in A9ii just lower MP. I suspect the readout speed will be blistering with no RS problems at all. Looks good to me. FF doesn’t need a quad-Bayer sensor anyway, unless you like to shoot only in moon light. Noise performance will most likely be more than acceptable, stellar even. Now, the big question is bitrates and codec and IBIS. Will they have this outperform their FX-9 darling? Doubt it, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 11, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted July 11, 2020 4K 120fps full pixel readout? Yes please. Sounds like a much better option than EOS R5. Juank, Trankilstef and Geoff CB 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 If the rumors about the 12mpx stacked sensors are true, PRAISE FUCKING BE. If they don’t botch it with not including s-cinetone this may well be my dream documentary video camera. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Outstanding for video, bad for stills. It makes sense for Sony, with 12MP BSI stacked sensor is not "threatening" to the A9II and they are sticking to the formula of four different FF model lines. A7IV A7RIV A7SIII A9II I expect to be around A7RIV pricing, not sure if the stacked sensor means it will cost a bit more or a bit less than that, but it won't be at the A9II level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathman Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Is stacked sensor means lower DR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Stathman said: Is stacked sensor means lower DR? Yes, at least for A9 stacked sensor. The larger pixels will probably balance it out. A9 is 24MP this is half that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Why would you want a stacked sensor if the DR is going to take a hit. Thats the one thing the A7S has going for it(besides low light and full frame). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
padam Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Why would you want a stacked sensor if the DR is going to take a hit. Thats the one thing the A7S has going for it(besides low light and full frame). Higher frame rates, lower rolling shutter I guess the improvement in technology means that it will be clearly better DR than the A7SII despite the stacked sensor penalty. Geoff CB and zerocool22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 hour ago, padam said: Higher frame rates, lower rolling shutter I guess the improvement in technology means that it will be clearly better DR than the A7SII despite the stacked sensor penalty. Exactly. Sony does well with DR, certainly better than Canon. I don’t know anything but I doubt they are going to regress in DR performance compared to A7iii Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodlum Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Video Hummus said: Exactly. Sony does well with DR, certainly better than Canon. I don’t know anything but I doubt they are going to regress in DR performance compared to A7iii The A9 with stacked sensor has less DR. If the A7Siii also has a stacked sensor then we may see a similar low DR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trankilstef Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: Sounds like a much better option than EOS R5. Exactly my thought. For video use, it is far more interesting than eos R5 and eos R6. I personally wait for this announcement and to know if I keep my S1H or go back to Sony now that they care about pro videographers (8 bit codec even in HDMI output, come on Sony !). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 It’s looking good. Scrumptious 4k @ 24/25/30 is all I ask (at ridiculously high iso levels). Preferably over full size (unlikely) HDMI to BMva for easy to edit Prores files. Plus a Hawk-Woods dummy battery so I can power it from dtap. But I’m expecting to also have to pay a premium for rapid AF (I only have MF lenses), IBIS (hopefully there’s an “off” menuitem somewhere), 120fps, etc etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Let’s go Sony! 4k 120p without overheating will be a huge winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanRevert Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said: Let’s go Sony! 4k 120p without overheating will be a huge winner. ZCam can do this now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 35 minutes ago, MeanRevert said: ZCam can do this now Yeah but its not a hybrid. + you need to rig it out a lot. ajay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noone Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 12MP is enough for stills for me anyway (still using the first version as my main camera and it is my all time favourite camera). I would also not mind if the DR is a little lower at base ISO than some others if the DR stayed higher longer as you ramp the ISO up (which is what the original does). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanRevert Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Yeah but its not a hybrid. + you need to rig it out a lot. Right, it’s in a small body so it’s obvious they figured out the cooling issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumble Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Alpha Rumours are reporting unlimited recording times on the A7S III https://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sony-a7sii-successor-has-new-12mp-sensor/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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