Trek of Joy Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Rolling shutter times are in and they are impressive. Geoff CB, Snowfun, Juank and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveV4D Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Is it my imagination, but has rolling shutter got a lot better in camera models released this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 More SOOC footage at 50/100p from the "No Limits" launch video by Jacques Crafford. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kYjaH84X9871d8-Rmuj9DOXfmtAH6V6i?fbclid=IwAR3LPZ7njD6UadrWtejYeGQHq5hfTCNOKXBrdliOZ4w4cvrja5IrzGgRnhY Stathman, Santoso, androidlad and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 17 hours ago, Trek of Joy said: More SOOC footage at 50/100p from the "No Limits" launch video by Jacques Crafford. https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1kYjaH84X9871d8-Rmuj9DOXfmtAH6V6i?fbclid=IwAR3LPZ7njD6UadrWtejYeGQHq5hfTCNOKXBrdliOZ4w4cvrja5IrzGgRnhY I think the colours and overall image quality is much, much improved from the previous cameras. Did a quick log to rec 709 and CC on a couple of shots. note after posting: the gamma has shifted massively with these uploads and look more magenta compared to my exports. How weird! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Graded and matched to Alexa using the above footage, with CineMatch plugin: Stathman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Daniel Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, androidlad said: Graded and matched to Alexa using the above footage, with CineMatch plugin: Nice. The footage definitely has a slight green / yellow tint but it can get easily corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I love the rolloff highlights and rolling shutter is just amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 People keep saying it can be easily corrected but I keep seeing that zombie yellow and that clinical radioactive green everywhere unless it's that overcorrected atrocious orange and teal that's become synonymous with sony and I say this as someone who has one of their cameras. currensheldon and Nodnarb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizhmgoncalves Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 It looks really good for my taste. Just Aces Slog3 Conversion to rec 709, no grading. And the footage is really good to for color grading, much more information on the codec. I could never do things like that with the past Sony mirrorless codecs and have no compression artifacts and banding issues. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 sunlight like that goes a long way for any camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rinad Amir Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I have placed my preorder also thinking to get G-master 24-70 all arounder 😁 Snowfun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Hanriverprod said: People keep saying it can be easily corrected but I keep seeing that zombie yellow and that clinical radioactive green everywhere unless it's that overcorrected atrocious orange and teal that's become synonymous with sony and I say this as someone who has one of their cameras. With any 10-bit camera (if you know what you are doing) you should have plenty of latitude to create just about any color scheme you want. All it takes is someone who knows what they are doing to create a LUT that matches the color you are hoping to achieve. I have to stress however that it takes someone who knows what they are doing. There is no doubt that straight out of the camera, skin colors do not have the magenta that Canon has that people have a tendency to like. It certainly is achievable however. What I've mostly seen online so far with the A7SIII is mostly straight-out-of-camera looks. Gerald Undone has a new video up today that explains what most people do with their log footage. They attempt to add saturation and contrast and they think that's good enough. Well...it's not good enough. Rinad Amir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Yes, I don’t get all these color purists. We aren’t shooting 8-bit h264 anymore. Once you go above 8-bit color codec, excluding doing crazy color changes, you can pretty much match any camera you want with any other camera within a certain margin of error. Lets not forget of course that our eyes perceive color totally differently! Even further, individuals color “pleasing-ness” is such a deep rabbit hole as to make it impossible to say any camera has “the best color.” That leaves DR, highlight roll of, compression artifacts, and the mystical motion cadence as the biggest differentiators. You can tweak the highlight roll off a tiny bit, but not much. That is mostly down to how good the sensor is, ie 16-bit linear off an ARRI versus 12-bit or 14-bit log off of something like this A7Siii. And finally, if it’s not your job to get the best image you can on a multi-tens of millions of dollars movie and you are focusing so much on the colors out of your camera...you are optimizing the wrong thing my friend. Geoff_L 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stathman Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 My setup is struggling with the 100fps XAVC HS files. Does anyone experiencing smooth playback? I'm on a mac. Tried them on Premiere and Resolve Studio, latest versions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashit Tandon Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The H264 4k/60 files are smooth on my imac. Can't say the same for the H265 4k/120 clip 😞 Must say I had a lot of fun playing with the color wheels in final cut pro. The flexibility is tremendous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Pretty good comparison. Hopefully Canon will come with a reply soon and implement clog2, and hopefully a resolution for the overheating problem. Kinda surprised by the autofocus of the A7S iii, as it seems to be on par here with the A7S iii, as other sources claim its miles ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Are people delusional here? Every thing in reality has its own particular qualities and no matter how much people want to believe they can bend it to their will you cannot change the intrinsic value of the thing itself. A sony is a sony. You get great tech for its image quality unique to whatever makes it sony. Some like it some dont. Just deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hanriverprod said: Are people delusional here? Every thing in reality has its own particular qualities and no matter how much people want to believe they can bend it to their will you cannot change the intrinsic value of the thing itself. A sony is a sony. You get great tech for its image quality unique to whatever makes it sony. Some like it some dont. Just deal with it. Please inform these people immediately. They have been wasting their time! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Color_Encoding_System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizhmgoncalves Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Stathman said: My setup is struggling with the 100fps XAVC HS files. Does anyone experiencing smooth playback? I'm on a mac. Tried them on Premiere and Resolve Studio, latest versions. Using Resolve studio here. Once I turned then into 25fps they playback real-time on my PC. Trying to playback at 100fps it dropped frames. But in a 25 or 24 timeline it worked. Time stretched or normal, works really fine. My setup is a Ryzen 1600 with a Radeon Rx570 4gb, 32gb ram. Very similar to some Macs. My system struggles with the Canon R5 h265, 100% CPU usage dropping frames, but not the Sony ones, 40-50% CPU. Even turning the R5 files into 24-25fps doesn't make any difference. But the Sony XAVC-I performed really close to prores, 25% CPU, and that is a great point for the A7s 3. Stathman and ajay 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanriverprod Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Just because you get a group of people doesn’t make them right. The human race is a group of people too. Video Hummus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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