Llaasseerr Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Hey all, since the raw footage is starting to trickle out, can someone upload clips of a lens cap test with both in-camera s-log3 and ProRes Raw? Also what would be nice is shooting the sun with your fingers blocking it to see a highlight clipping point. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llaasseerr Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 I should clarify, shot at base ISO 640 for the s-log3 clips. It shouldn't matter for the raw clips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hmm still no WB and ISO adjustment for a7S3's prores RAW Juank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Really interesting comparison with the R5. 8k RAW on the R5 is very impressive, in the bread and butter 4k modes the A7s3 seems to have the edge particularly with DR and lowlight (although there is a lot of smeary NR going on with the Sony) The R5 needs those other Clog modes and of course to sort out the overheating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 @ade towell Actually Lumix S5 is a real winner. When I tested the 8bit codecs of the S1, there was no mushyness whatsoever at high isos in extreme low (no) light situations. a few tiny Artefacts became visible in the shadows at no light. Interesting enough the super slim 75mbit h265 codec had grain in these situations, on the contrary it breaks apart on evenly and well lit plain surfaces. So I have been super impressed. Still don´t have the Vlog update, because I dont know if Panasonic will give it to us for free very soon. Would be a bit of wasted 200 USD then. S1, no mushyness in the shadows in no light situations, but grain. "No light" what a term for photography.:) S5 with Vlog has now been tested and it is performing the best compared to R5,6, A7siii, the latter one the worst. S5 is an image quality monster. Hard to believe they did it. Cinema quality in a 150mbit codec. Panasonic needs to promote it better. They can ask me being an ambassador. Here I come @andy lee :) Check out Andrews friends from slashcam de and put it through the translator or check out the image.: https://www.slashcam.de/images/texte/1974-300Prozent_Auge-300Prozent_Auge.jpg Thomas Hill and deezid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Yes I prefer the Panasonic cameras and colours to the Sony and Canon too but thought this was an interesting comparison of the 2 current flavours of the month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Yep, like expected. The A7s3 looks quite garbage in comparison to the Canon R5/6 and Panasonic S-series. Sony didn't really update their horrible processing since 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beritar Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, deezid said: Yep, like expected. The A7s3 looks quite garbage in comparison to the Canon R5/6 and Panasonic S-series. Sony didn't really update their horrible processing since 2015. Luckily for Sony, they have some popular Youtubers with biased reviews. deezid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 19, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted September 19, 2020 A7C.... No 10bit! Pana S5... No AF! YouTubers only slate the Panasonic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 A good look at the a7s3 with some ISO tests using various PP's. I'm personally still a fan of the Cine profiles since ETTR is my preferred way of working instead of playing the over exposure game. But looking forward to working with Slog3 too. Cheers Chris Rinad Amir and Juank 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 19, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted September 19, 2020 It's the youtube shit content merry-go-round again. May as well not talk. Just carry on pressing CTRL-P Beritar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: It's the youtube shit content merry-go-round again. May as well not talk. Just carry on pressing CTRL-P Few actually have the camera since its not shipping in most parts of the world. And I'm on a Mac, its Command-V Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchtape Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Even though I'm probably getting this cam (not the first batch though), the resolving power makes me sad 😞 At the end of the day the speed vs the resolution wins in $$$ terms since 90% of people don't care if it's sharp or not and you'll end up watching a video on a phone. It's just easier to work with and you take a slight hit to IQ that only makes you cry but no one else. The NR is also next level sludge but it "works" so yay? I'd probably take the Canon image despite it's trash shadow recovery, but dat cripple timer and 30 minute limit... for $4K. It's too hard to work with that camera on regular jobs, so A7SIII it is... Anyone else getting clients asking for 100mb videos for their streaming software that can't handle anything else?... Geoff CB and Juank 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Maze Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 go ahead... tell me how stupid i look in this thumbnail. PannySVHS, IronFilm, Geoff CB and 5 others 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 @Dave Maze agree with your conclusion, now that higher quality 10-bit is the norm there are lots of great options in the budget/hybrid space. B&H started shipping according to some posts on FB. Looks like we'll start seeing more unboxing videos tomorrow. Cheers Chris PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 @Dave Maze I think S5 puts out a better image for half the price in a prettier body. Now I wanna see your face drool all over that beauty. 🙂 Camera 1 is Alexa, right! I betcha! Well, you guys watch yourself and guess.:) Beritar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beritar Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, PannySVHS said: @Dave Maze I think S5 puts out a better image for half the price in a prettier body. Now I wanna see your face drool all over that beauty. 🙂 Camera 1 is Alexa, right! I betcha! Well, you guys watch yourself and guess.:) No doubt about the better image, better IBIS too. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Beritar said: No doubt about the better image, better IBIS too. At the expense of much worse rolling shutter, laughably bad AF in 2020, a downspec EVF, no raw, few native lens options and so on. The L-mount has a ways to go before its a competitive system with the E-mount and it doesn't look like they're ever going to get the AF sorted. Pretty much anything can produce a great image these days, if you need more than just a body, Panasonic FF is the worst choice among the big players - far behind Sony, Canon, Nikon and even Fuji. Cheers Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beritar Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 50 minutes ago, Trek of Joy said: At the expense of much worse rolling shutter, laughably bad AF in 2020, a downspec EVF, no raw, few native lens options and so on. The L-mount has a ways to go before its a competitive system with the E-mount and it doesn't look like they're ever going to get the AF sorted. Pretty much anything can produce a great image these days, if you need more than just a body, Panasonic FF is the worst choice among the big players - far behind Sony, Canon, Nikon and even Fuji. Cheers Chris There is advantages and disadvantages on both cameras (the S5 will get the 5.9k raw update too), in the end it's about user preference. As an hybrid shooter, I much prefer the S5. PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Beritar said: There is advantages and disadvantages on both cameras (the S5 will get the 5.9k raw update too), in the end it's about user preference. As an hybrid shooter, I much prefer the S5. Hey use whatever works for you, if its the S5 that's great. The lenses and AF don't work for me, everyone's needs are different. Enjoy your camera. Cheers Chris PannySVHS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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