Nezza Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Polin regularly complains that camera manufacturers don't 'back up the money truck' to his house. I think he doth protest too much. Every time I hear him say 'Fro knows photo' a little piece of me dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wronzoff Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 7 hours ago, Leon Postma said: It is exactly this kind of attitude that normalizes and ultimately rewards the behaviour of these shills. By letting them get away with it. Sure things. But the reality is Polin channel has 1.23M subscribers. Tony and Chelsea 1.41M . McKinnon 4.86M subscribers. Did you see a Panasonic or Fujifilm review on Polin channel ? No, because if your serious about photography it's either Canon or Nikon, right ? Leica, Hasselblad, Phase One, Alpa ??? What's that .... never heard of. You want to educate people!!! Good luck with that. It's a job, and a difficult one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 I have 3 subscribers to mine. I think I'm doing it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 15, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted July 15, 2020 Tony & Chelsea subscribers are serious about photography? 😂 That's like saying the 43rumors comments section is full of artists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon Postma Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 The topic is dishing out blatant disinformation, Wronzoff. An influencer obfuscating information from the Canon mothership itself. Calling this guy out is educational in itself. You are handed a new perspective by Andrew whether you like it or not. We need more of this - instead of chilling out which basically amounts to enabling bad actors and certainly does not move the needle in the right direction. I see unease with McKinnon who at least acknowledges the heating problems and clearly states up front he is a Canon ambassador. Such nuance or positioning is far less clear or basically absent with useful idiot Polin. Feel free to disagree - I don’t share your fatalism to which I reacted primarily No offense I hope rainbowmerlin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wronzoff Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 31 minutes ago, Leon Postma said: I don’t share your fatalism to which I reacted primarily No offense I hope No offense at all, because I agree with you. It's just... Youtuber with 1M+ subscribers are running a business and they need to maintain their numbers of views. See the video title "The TRUTH About CANON’s EOS R5 OVERHEATING Controversy". Disinformation, controversy, marketing are money maker for those channels. You can point out their ambiguity. Doesn't matter, because they have followers. Personally, I am not interested with Polin verbal diarrhea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 15, 2020 Super Members Share Posted July 15, 2020 To be serious for a moment, the amount of abuse that @Andrew Reid took from the shills, bootlickers, click merchants, grudge bearers and other assorted snide gobshites portraying him as being some sort of deranged bitter outlier who "You can always count on to be negative" for basically reading Canon's own words out to them was pathetic but very informative. I wouldn't hold out much hope of most of those people organising an apology pile on with the same gusto they organised an abuse one because, of course, thats not how they (t)roll but at least they've shown their hand about who they really are. I do hope it represents some sort of tipping point for the wider world in terms of the scales falling from their eyes about this sort of marketing though. In particular, I hope that if the R5 and R6 issues are improved or mitigated at launch or during its life cycle that people remember that the fire (ho ho) that was lit under Canon's arse to address this wasn't sparked by sycophancy. PannySVHS, noone, kye and 2 others 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannySVHS Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Dunno, Jared Polins´sound changed. He now sounds like a news anchor from a major TV station. I can hardly take this kinda sound of voice and intonation. No matter, if CNN, Fox, or Oprah- if one considers her news as well, all the same. 🙂 Andrew and hopefully otheres who follow his example in the camera game will find a new audience I am sure. Just like people get disgusted by the hyterical hyperbole of news anchor psychos. Jareds motto and credo was cool, now it´s too hot like an R5 with more than 1 mio hyperboled subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Jarrod is right to say what's he said. There was WAY to much speculation at the start. Some people in their blog posts even said that 1080p was the ONLY way you could shoot long format video, which we now know is incorrect. So that's the kind of misinformation he was trying to avoid until canon made an official statement. But then again it is important to be first in this industry rather than right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 13 hours ago, Wronzoff said: Did you see a Panasonic or Fujifilm review on Polin channel ? No, because if your serious about photography it's either Canon or Nikon, right ? Leica, Hasselblad, Phase One, Alpa ??? What's that .... never heard of. You want to educate people!!! Good luck with that. It's a job, and a difficult one. You don’t see them because Jared isn’t, from what I can tell, interested in educating peopling about photographic choice it has more to do about money and who pays the advertising dollars. Jared made that video to make money and stir the controversy soup before he spat out another video about the topic. I mean its a full time job making content about the same damn shit Over and over again...because at the end of the day they are all scared a glitch in the YouTube master system will erase their controversy peddling business overnight. I have no problem with them making videos and making money. It’s when they pander to their corporate overlords, in constant fear their mouths will be ripped from the marketing teet, with the pretense that they are “educating” their viewers. No, they are just advertising middlemen. Leon Postma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 The tight t-shirted one has released another of his 'reading things out he's found off the internet' videos where he acknowledges Canon published info on the overheating. Info that already existed before he made his previous 'stop speculating' video. Jared is ALL over this. I think he should change his now legendary sign off to 'Fro reads stuff off the internet dot com'. Video Hummus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 16, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, Nezza said: The tight t-shirted one has released another of his 'reading things out he's found off the internet' videos where he acknowledges Canon published info on the overheating. Info that already existed before he made his previous 'stop speculating' video. Jared is ALL over this. I think he should change his now legendary sign off to 'Fro reads stuff off the internet dot com'. The cheek of tagging it "Breaking news" in the thumbnail. Can you imagine the BBC being 7 days late to a major news event and suddenly claiming a scoop! It's that ridiculous. But anything goes on the internet and people seem to fall for it hook line and sinker. The last video was called "THE TRUTH about overheating" - where he called the facts speculation. Not much truth in that. And now the latest one is the BREAKING NEWS. Not a single comment calling him out for his bullshit. Why do I get so much agro but the idiots get off free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 He is a joke, but he worked out that to keep the algorithms happy you need to be pumping out 'content' all day every day. This leads to a constant stream of click bait-y shite, repurposing others content and low quality 'comment' all wrapped up in a series of ill fitting t shirts. I think many people see him for what he is. I find him funny, but not in the way he intends. Andrew Reid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 16, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted July 16, 2020 He's the kind of guy who if he walked into the local pub in Manchester, everyone would be thinking "who the fuck does he think he is" The sheer ego of this kind of American always amazes me. Just tone it down. Toneh it down. Go and pet a baby deer. Nezza and Inazuma 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 45 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: He's the kind of guy who if he walked into the local pub in Manchester, everyone would be thinking "who the fuck does he think he is" Talking of Manchester - John Cooper-Clarke could pen a few lines about this whole YT nonsense... The bloody codec’s bloody sad The bloody heating’s bloody bad The bloody truth is bloody bought The bloody cash is bloody sought The bloody twat’s a bloody clown Welcome to youtube town (credit to Chickentown JCC) BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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