majoraxis Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I have not seen Blackmagic make a mistake camera wise, so I have to trust that they have thought this through. If it looks better than other 8k cameras even if it has to start with 12k and subsample then that's fine. A big part of them getting the $10k price tag is if it is the best 8k camera output. I hope it is and that this sensor tech will trickle down. Maybe an 8k version to get perfect 4k in a pocket pro 8k for $3000 in the future. Hopefully, 14 stops will be usable without excessive noise or some fix pattern issue. Hopefully the new sensor tech will not have weaknesses in low light like previous generations. deezid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 If Drive-In Theaters make a comeback 12K down to 8K might be the future in theatrical release motion pictures. PaulUsher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 If it has a solid 3200 iso and no fixed pattern noise it will be a winner. That said at the price point you may be tempted to get an FX9 or C300 MK3. BRAW is a huge advantage though and if you want or need 8k or highspeed 4k this really is a unique option at a low price point. I am actually more interested in Gen 5 color science. Geoff CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 I would have rather had global shutter 6K with 14 stops. Xavier Plagaro Mussard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrothersthre3 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Just now, Super8 said: I would have rather had global shutter 6K with 14 stops. I just want the Pocket 6k in a Ursa mini body with better color science. deezid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wondo Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 quick question... where do you guys watch 8k material? or even 4k? Danyyyel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanWright Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 http://phfx.com/tools/formatCompare/formatCompare.cgi?makeA=RED&modelA=Komodo+6K&formatA=6K+FF&makeB=Blackmagic+Design&modelB=Ursa+Mini+Pro+12K&formatB=12K+DCI&focalLengths= It has exactly the same size sensor as the Komodo majoraxis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Yes I invented this 12K sensor, which is precisely the same size as RED Komodo at 27.03mm x 14.25mm, and exactly double the horizontal and vertical resolution. And who made the RED Komodo sensor?? 😉 Ok fine, this 12K sensor is a custom version of Canon's 120MXSC, operating in an ROI mode https://canon-cmos-sensors.com/canon-120mxs-cmos-sensor/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxmizer Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Great ... but what's the problem !!! from 12k then do what you want ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Urquhart Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 21 minutes ago, Super8 said: If Drive-In Theaters make a comeback 12K down to 8K might be the future in theatrical release motion pictures. With COVID, drive Ins are the only theatres still running here in Australia! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Stasinos Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 It seems that while i was sleeping last night, binary computing stepped up. I feel so old now that i have to stick with my good old 8K camera which i haven’t bought yet. A paradox maybe? kye, nickname and dslnc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaconda_ Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: and the 8K / 6K / 4K crop modes are going to have the smaller sensor look (2x crop or more). Im not sure this is representative of the facts. The crop is only for the very high frame rates. For normal shooting, there is no crop at any resolution... As far as I understood anyway. Stanly and maxmizer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, Anaconda_ said: Im not sure this is representative of the facts. The crop is only for the very high frame rates. For normal shooting, there is no crop at any resolution... As far as I understood anyway. "You can shoot 12K at 60 fps or use in-sensor scaling to allow 8K or 4K RAW at up to 110 fps without cropping or changing your field of view. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Apologies if the test footage was already posted:- Lux Shots, Geoff CB and Alt Shoo 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Stasinos Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Andrew Reid, PaulUsher, Stanly and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris Stasinos Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dimitris Stasinos said: Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Ale82 Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 12k camera for 10000 euro/dollars. Probably about as much for the new computer needed to work with those files 🥴😰 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 apparently it edits very smoothly on 2017 laptops PaulUsher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveV4D Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 BRAW is a very edit friendly codec that runs well on my computer. At least with Resolve it does. I would wager it will be a lot easier to edit 12K BRAW than 8K H265 files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade towell Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Yes I think the hi res BRAW in this camera is going to be much more useful and workable than the huge 8k RAW of the overheating R5. The beauty of being able to shoot at different resolutions in BRAW is genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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