zerocool22 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Does it also overheat during normal working temperatures +- 21°? Cause 90% of the year, I work below that temperature. I cannot cope working in 30° myself anyhows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nautical Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Reid said: There is the Metabones EF-R mount Speed Booster which could be interesting on the EOS R5 in crop mode. Expand There is very little information on the crop mode out there. The R5 manual is not much help. What I have gathered about this mode from around the internet is: -It is not supposed to overheat per the official Canon heat sheet. And it has no time cap other than standard 30 minute cut off. -Log will work with this mode and its supposed to be 10 bit (although not 100% confirmed on that). -It is based off a 5.1k sensor oversample -Works for 24 and 30p. What I have not seen anywhere is any actually footage of this mode. I am not proficient in sensor area math, but the .71 of the Metabones adapter would make it a 1.15 crop like the RP? Also it is being rumored that Canon itself will have announce an "R" speed booster in the next couple months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Autofocus. AF speed is properly adjusted to account for and leverage the shorter focal length and the brighter maximum aperture. Dual-pixel autofocus (DPAF) and video AF support. Focal length and aperture are adjusted in EXIF (see note 3). Image stabilization (IS) lens support. Store EXIF data (lens name, focal length and maximum/minimum aperture) for one manual lens in the adapter. Build-in multi-function Control Wheel (turn/ push-in) for assignable functions(eg. ISO, shutter speed or aperture control, depth-of-field preview). LED indicator shows communication status. Powered by camera body. With most lenses, no external power source required. source With Tilta's cooling workaround, I know I will end to buy one... Canon is like Blackmagic to digital filmmaker, it is synonymous of the world of pictures itself ; ) BTW we're shooting three short films and a feature film from a C500 these days, works like a charm! : -) shooter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 7:05 PM, Emanuel said: Autofocus. AF speed is properly adjusted to account for and leverage the shorter focal length and the brighter maximum aperture. Dual-pixel autofocus (DPAF) and video AF support. Focal length and aperture are adjusted in EXIF (see note 3). Image stabilization (IS) lens support. Store EXIF data (lens name, focal length and maximum/minimum aperture) for one manual lens in the adapter. Build-in multi-function Control Wheel (turn/ push-in) for assignable functions(eg. ISO, shutter speed or aperture control, depth-of-field preview). LED indicator shows communication status. Powered by camera body. With most lenses, no external power source required. source With Tilta's cooling workaround, I know I will end to buy one... Canon is like Blackmagic to digital filmmaker, it is synonymous of the world of pictures itself ; ) BTW we're shooting three short films and a feature film from a C500 these days, works like a charm! : -) Expand meh def going the canon EF-RF adapter with builtin ND, if overheating isnt an issue for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Aah the R5 hits the shelves tomorrow. So we might get some more tests this weekend. Leica50mm and Emanuel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leica50mm Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I'm pretty excited by the possibility of shooting 8K Raw video and doing stills and motion all at once . With DPAF, Raw and Image stabilization, I think the stills from 8K raw are going to be very nice . Shooting higher than 180 shutter and smoothing in post is a break through at least for me. I'm enjoying it already very much on 1dxmkiii already. newfoundmass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 7:05 PM, Emanuel said: Autofocus. AF speed is properly adjusted to account for and leverage the shorter focal length and the brighter maximum aperture. Dual-pixel autofocus (DPAF) and video AF support. Focal length and aperture are adjusted in EXIF (see note 3). Image stabilization (IS) lens support. Store EXIF data (lens name, focal length and maximum/minimum aperture) for one manual lens in the adapter. Build-in multi-function Control Wheel (turn/ push-in) for assignable functions(eg. ISO, shutter speed or aperture control, depth-of-field preview). LED indicator shows communication status. Powered by camera body. With most lenses, no external power source required. source With Tilta's cooling workaround, I know I will end to buy one... Canon is like Blackmagic to digital filmmaker, it is synonymous of the world of pictures itself ; ) BTW we're shooting three short films and a feature film from a C500 these days, works like a charm! : -) Expand In Tilta we trust. cam1982 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Here’s a thought, I could get the Sony for video and the Canon purely for stills... It would mean giving up the one brand approach for my hybrid wedding needs, but could be a ‘perfect’ set up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Oh and I would like to see a side by side with 5d iii ML RAW. As I guess it solves my issues with the 5d iii, but hoping IQ is as nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 6:23 AM, Responder said: Now with the R5 we saw very limited availability for influencers, while Sony did a far better job getting the a7siii into more people’s hands and thus getting more airtime and video. So Sony clearly learned here from Canons playbook while Canon has taken a stumble with the hypebeast - question is can they get up and recover? Expand A fair summary. The Canon fanboys are having to work super hard to defend the indefensible. Canon missed the mark and they can't bare it. Trying to justify the addition of a third party cooling device (that probably won't work) so they can shoot video for more than 15 minutes. Ridiculous. Meanwhile the Sony has largely been well received. Fanboys gonna fanboy - was ever thus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 8:37 AM, Nezza said: A fair summary. The Canon fanboys are having to work super hard to defend the indefensible. Canon missed the mark and they can't bare it. Trying to justify the addition of a third party cooling device (that probably won't work) so they can shoot video for more than 15 minutes. Ridiculous. Meanwhile the Sony has largely been well received. Fanboys gonna fanboy - was ever thus. Expand Or an umbrella for the A7S III to shield from sun also a bit ridiculous....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 9:16 AM, gt3rs said: Or an umbrella for the A7S III to shield from sun also a bit ridiculous....... Expand Who said that? You plus a random off the internet? Hardly conclusive evidence. The vast majority of the reviews thus far have said the Sony has better thermal management than Canon's. Desperate stuff to pretend otherwise. Careful getting that beard trapped in the fan on a 4 grand 'top of the line' camera to get you another 2 minutes recording time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Interesting how you seem to conveniently omit the testings where the A7S3 shut done BEFORE the R5. Whos the fanboy now? BOTH cameras overheat, albeit the R5 more systematically whereas the Sony seems more unpredictable depending on sunlight, temp and codec settings. The R5 has a LQ « safety » mode that in theory never overheats. More tests need to be done there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 9:32 AM, Django said: Interesting how you seem to conveniently omit the testings where the A7S3 shut done BEFORE the R5. Expand In one 'review' where he didn't state what thermal management settings were set? Okay fanboy you wanted the Canon to deliver and it missed badly - I get it. You mean the R5 4K LQ 'safety' mode that produces shitty footage? 4+ grand well spent. The R5 overheats worse than the Sony. This is not difficult stuff, only a fanboy pretends otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 30, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted July 30, 2020 You can't trust any Sony A7S III test where the reviewer doesn't realise that you need to set the temp cut off to high in the menus. And you can't trust any reviewer who reviews a camera without knowing how to use it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBobsPhotography Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I am keeping my R5 order, but not seeing myself selling my GH5 any time soon. Having tried the R5 slightly, it seems like the best stills camera on the market, which shouldnt be ignored. It will also be great for whenever i need video autofocus, which in many cases will be more important than having the highest IQ recording options available. The s35 mode crop might be good enough if i have to use it. The Sony is not an option since i have lots of EF glass and I need a capable stills camera. I dont put much faith in peltier element based cooling as they are notoriously inefficient. A fan or fan+heat sink might be worth it though Emanuel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 9:41 AM, Nezza said: In one 'review' where he didn't state what thermal management settings were set? Okay fanboy you wanted the Canon to deliver and it missed badly - I get it. You mean the R5 4K LQ 'safety' mode that produces shitty footage? 4+ grand well spent. The R5 overheats worse than the Sony. This is not difficult stuff. Expand A7S III is a very good camera but has is own set of issues like overheating under the sun, unusable ibis for video, less detailed 4k than even the A7 III, R5, R6.... R5 has this big issue with overheating that is probably more an issue than the A7S but who knows..... I for one do a lot of shooting under the sun in summer and really cold in winter and probably both camera gives issue.... If after 30 min under the sun A7S III cannot shoot in any mode then R5 is a safer solution as you can go good details s35 crop or low details 4k LQ..... but personally I find both are bad in this regards.... On 7/30/2020 at 9:44 AM, Andrew Reid said: You can't trust any Sony A7S III test where the reviewer doesn't realise that you need to set the temp cut off to high in the menus. And you can't trust any reviewer who reviews a camera without knowing how to use it! Expand In his second test he did went through all the suggestions including setting to high, but yeah man was never on the moon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 9:45 AM, UncleBobsPhotography said: I dont put much faith in peltier element based cooling as they are notoriously inefficient. A fan or fan+heat sink might be worth it though Expand Somebody experienced with peltiers said you have to put 20 watts in to get 1 watt out, very inefficient. An R5 owner seen earlier. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 30, 2020 Super Members Share Posted July 30, 2020 Defending a manufacturer's fuck up via the medium of advocating a 3rd party add on cooling device with rotating blades is quite literally putting the fan into fan boy. Nezza, Jonathan422, newfoundmass and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 9:44 AM, Andrew Reid said: You can't trust any Sony A7S III test where the reviewer doesn't realise that you need to set the temp cut off to high in the menus. And you can't trust any reviewer who reviews a camera without knowing how to use it! Expand he did change that in his second test though. gave it another 5 minutes or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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