PabloB Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 49 minutes ago, Mikelama said: If the camera wasn’t designed initially to deal with heat (and sounds like heat wasn't even a primary consideration), a quick fix like adding a heat sink may not be feasible or do the trick even if feasible. The body and logic boards may need a redesign. This thing is generating so much heat that merely switching to video after an hour of shooting pics can be too much. I don’t think a puny piece of copper is going to be a some magical fix that makes this the perfect hybrid camera. It will be interesting to see what happens. They'll probably buy an A7SIII and see if they can copy what they've done now it's been released 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Williams Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 I bought an X-T4 four weeks ago, and reading articles like this really make me happy with my choice! (A strange feeling when you are GAS-afflicted!) kaylee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 30, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted July 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Leica50mm said: Every camera reviewer has been saying the last eight years is that canon has to change, they can't go on being so conservative with their specs. And finally they do it and everyone turns on them . Y'all just got what you wanted right? Why does every comment of yours has a massive elephant in the room? Nobody is criticising Canon for being conservative on the EOS R5 specs. You have to deliver the specs AND reliability, so that customers don't get a defective product. Not hard to understand is it? abehalpert, MurtlandPhoto, Video Hummus and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, Brian Williams said: I bought an X-T4 four weeks ago, and reading articles like this really make me happy with my choice! (A strange feeling when you are GAS-afflicted!) That overheats too but. Not as bad but still it there. Stanly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inazuma Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 They could recall for now and perhaps make a firmware update that allows lower quality or line skipping mode that won't heat up the cameras much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 https://petapixel.com/2020/07/30/canon-is-delaying-eos-r5-shipments-due-to-overheating-concerns-report/ PetaPixel picked it up. Others agreeing as well. All signs point to recall. Imagine they fix the overheating and suddenly a deluge of a7siii on the market lol. ntblowz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Overheating killed the R5 for me, though I saw someone on FB asking $5000 USD for his, maybe I should have kept my preorder. Keeping an eye on this... Chris Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionrouge Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 There are 2 options, but unfortunately, I will go for the second one. -First: Canon did not realized the overheating issue was such a drawback and are working on some kind of patch. It's actually really not clear how they will be able to do that in only 2 months time (Testing + producing and shipping). Did they had option during development and already have a kind of way to fix it, but did not implement it at the first time? Weird. IT means the fix is mechanical and not just a firmware. -Second. Canon did not stock a lot of camera, but just enough to get a the marketing team able to stat an earlier a availability date. This in order to get people pre-order in front of Sony pre-announcement. It's no secret all production are slower than usual and they are working on this now. Bottom line. You can't ave one in your hand right now and for the 2 coming months, at least. So overheating or not; This is not a camera anyone can buy! Sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashit Tandon Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Andrew, appreciate you highlighting the deficiencies of these cameras. As u mentioned somewhere else, these companies have to be accountable and not rewarded for taking short cuts. Hopefully canon goes back to the drawing board and addresses these issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Recall and Out of Stock notices are not the same. Rumors are rumors. Sounds like it's more of a image marketing issue that Canon knows they can't win with negative doom and gloom You Tubers. Has anyone tested or released a street production model? Canon is a big enough company to have 3 different part options for everything in the R5. Going with top of the line composites is not always the case. Canon engineers have this covered. Look what happened with Nikon Z6 and sending the camera in for an upgrade to record Pro Res RAW externally? Leica50mm and Video Hummus 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 https://www.newsshooter.com/2020/07/31/canon-eos-r5-r6-recall-rumors-are-not-true/ Rumors are not true apparently. I remember last time company had to deny something like this - Olympus anyone? te he he. Leica50mm and Stanly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gethin Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 A cynic might think that they dont want to release it in the middle of summer 🤔😆 We'll know for sure if they start appearing in stores over ere in Australia. abehalpert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sev7en Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 It looks like the Titanic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 hours ago, newfoundmass said: Short of a redesign, how do they even fix this? What a disaster. Indeed, any fix will just be a better heatsink/firmware bandage that will just allow a couple of additional recording minutes. Unless it gets a complete redesign it will keep overheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger 2.0 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, sev7en said: It looks like the Titanic... At least the iceberg and ice water would cool the R5/R6 down 🤣 Wonder how many faulty R5/R6 units we will have in a couple of years from all the excessive overheating. Certainly never going to buy such a unit second hand. Would be an expensive brick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Williams Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 6 hours ago, Yurolov said: That overheats too but. Not as bad but still it there. Mine doesn’t, at least not yet. Definitely not after only 20 minutes. The only reports I’ve seen of overheating for the X-T4 are all the different websites quoting the one Northrup video, and who gives a shit what that a-hole has to say? Yurolov 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgvro Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 11 minutes ago, Brian Williams said: Mine doesn’t, at least not yet. Definitely not after only 20 minutes. The only reports I’ve seen of overheating for the X-T4 are all the different websites quoting the one Northrup video, and who gives a shit what that a-hole has to say? CameraConspiracies guy did seem to manage to recreate an overheat in one of the latest videos. Think he might have been using 4k60 and it was roughly after the quoted 20mins. I used to use my GH5 to non-stop roll internal record on >1hr long live music gigs and it's a slight bummer knowing I can't do that with my XT4 now unless I get a Ninja V or something. I can't remember if I saw yet what the overheating is like in only 1080 or lower fps 4k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Fuji just need to come out with that xh2 and just destroy everyone with nice ergonomics and better heat management in a larger body with pro features. No DCI and overheating still makes most of these cameras unfit for professional use, except for the panasonics, which appear to cater for the pro market more. Hope the xh2 comes out soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 9 hours ago, herein2020 said: Even if neither one overheated, the A7SIII still puts both the R5 and R6 to shame with features like dual card slot recording, dual media compatibility (genius), no recording limit (it's not 1990), better editing codec options, and what suspiciously looks like dual gain ISO. Could also say Canon puts Sony to shame with an IBIS so much better it looks like 5y technology difference, with much better body and ergonomics, no crop in 4K120, an more importantly actual stills capability (VS 12mpx, it’s not 1990). Everything is relative. We all have different needs. Neither products are bad in this case. Except the overheating if indeed the R5 can’t record a video after 30 stills (I still have a hard time believing that) and that Canon doesn’t do anything about it. Stanly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EphraimP Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 hours ago, Brian Williams said: I bought an X-T4 four weeks ago, and reading articles like this really make me happy with my choice! (A strange feeling when you are GAS-afflicted!) Ha! Same. I keep getting worried that I'll want the r6, but it seems to have some issues. 16 minutes ago, Brian Williams said: Mine doesn’t, at least not yet. Definitely not after only 20 minutes. The only reports I’ve seen of overheating for the X-T4 are all the different websites quoting the one Northrup video, and who gives a shit what that a-hole has to say? Yeah, not trusting Tohen further than I can throw him. Clownshoes. 5 minutes ago, dgvro said: CameraConspiracies guy did seem to manage to recreate an overheat in one of the latest videos. Think he might have been using 4k60 and it was roughly after the quoted 20mins. I used to use my GH5 to non-stop roll internal record on >1hr long live music gigs and it's a slight bummer knowing I can't do that with my XT4 now unless I get a Ninja V or something. I can't remember if I saw yet what the overheating is like in only 1080 or lower fps 4k. X-T4 + Ninja is a nice option. B&H is bundling them with an accessory pack at a good price, so that's the route I went. In my early tests, it can record to the Ninja in 4k 24p until the battery dies, about 2.5 hours, indoors. Outdoors in pretty warm weather, I was able to record 4K to the Ninja and 1080 to the camera for more than an hour, starting and stopping the takes to reposition a couple of times but not turning the camera off. This weekend I may torture test 4K internal while I'm editing a project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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