SteveV4D Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, MrSMW said: Of course Canon didn’t intentionally release a camera they will probably have to recall. Only in a tin foil hat world would anyone do that. In cases like this, there is always the conspiracy theory and then there is the cock up theory..... And 9 times out of 10, its mostly the cock up. Video Hummus and thebrothersthre3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 The NFS tests are very interesting, especially Test #2 where 1500 photos were taken before switching the R5 to video mode & they still got over 17 minutes of 10-bit 8K recording. That particular test seems to kinda contradict Gerald’s tweet about not having a single second of HQ video after shooting stills for an hour. Speaking of Gerald, he did a 3 hour live stream about R5/R6. I haven’t had time to watch it but just happened to skim through it and he addressed Dan Watson’s A7S3 vs R5 overheat results. He kinda cops out by saying their pre production Sony units may be different and then suggests to Dan to redo the test with the Sony camera -in the shade- as he admits direct sunlight may not dissipate heat correctly on the Sony. Perhaps he should be the one to take the A7S3 out in the sunlight to corroborate or not Dans results. ntblowz, Stanly and Yurolov 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Django said: The NFS tests are very interesting, especially Test #2 where 1500 photos were taken before switching the R5 to video mode & they still got over 17 minutes of 10-bit 8K recording. Regardless it sounds like some units have defective hardware. The overheating inconsistencies on the Sony are bad too. Clearly the manufactures don’t have FF mirrorless 4K totally figured out yet (or they are unwilling to give it to us). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandalorian Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 https://www.canonrumors.com/whats-next-for-the-canon-eos-r5-and-canon-eos-r6/ ^The next shipment of R5's are delayed until November? Andrew is right: There is definitely something going on behind the scenes at Canon regarding this camera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herein2020 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Over at News Shooter they are still in denial: https://www.newsshooter.com/2020/07/31/canon-eos-r5-r6-recall-rumors-are-not-true/ of course no Canon rep will admit they are working on a recall or a fix until the proper communication channels in Japan put out a proper press release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Well the recall rumors are purely speculative so “in denial” is rather extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nezza Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Yeah, because you'd hype your cameras of a decade up and up and then only 'make' enough to fulfil 20-30% of preorders then make people wait a further four months before they can buy it again. Entirely logical and rational... Listen to yourselves canboys, listen to yourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 It's funny, I haven't seen Canon fanboys over here, really : ) The owner of the site is brand agnostic and known for a very particular criticism of his own to also comprehend Canon, so where are they? : D On the contrary, we cannot exactly say the same about their detractors over these same pages, isn't it? ; -) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Ranger Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said: They wanted bad press? Wouldn't a camera with no major issues and 8k be way better press? I can't see them doing this intentionally. Yes, I know it sounds crazy. But ... bad press has worked better than good press in the past, it's not something new. I know, I know ... It sounds crazy. But if this problem is solved only with a firmware, it would be suspicious to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Apparently R5 has a small bit more DR than the A7R4 in photo mode.... a big improvements over previous R sensor Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 25 minutes ago, gt3rs said: Apparently R5 has a small bit more DR than the A7R4 in photo mode.... a big improvements over previous R sensor I should have posted the link : https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon EOS R5,Sony ILCE-7RM4 zerocool22 and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodlum Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, gt3rs said: I should have posted the link : https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon EOS R5,Sony ILCE-7RM4 It thought I would never see this day. Hopefully all future Canon bodies will have sensors based on the same tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt3rs Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 This seems the best photo camera ever made from canon 45mpix, 12/20fps, great ibis, low noise, af tracking seems great too with both RF and EF lenses, great photodr, cfexpress from nfs test the overheating are on pair with what canon says. imo chance of a recall almost 0 Unfortunately as video workhorse is a bit too compromised..... I wish it could do for every high end mode minute it would recover with a minute cool down.... Emanuel and docmoore 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted July 31, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 hours ago, Django said: Well the recall rumors are purely speculative so “in denial” is rather extreme. Excuse me? What's so extreme? Matthew Allard thinks he's doing his journalistic duties asking a junior PR person in a team at a Canon subsidiary. The very definition of denial and repeating the PR line. If he bothered to dig deeper and even ask single retailer he would know there is something going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super8 Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Didn't BMP4K and Sony's A7III all sell out after their first shipment release? It should be easy to find out if B&H received fewer R5 / R6 than originally promised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Latest word from PetaPixel for what it's worth...minutes ago... https://petapixel.com/2020/07/31/canon-responds-there-is-no-delay-in-eos-r5-shipments/ Quote No doubt the debate will still rage on. The statement doesn’t directly address when the second allocation of cameras will go out, and it doesn’t touch on the recall speculation directly, but the fact that the first shipment is going out as scheduled should quash any rumors that a recall is actively in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Canon's actual response reads Quote Orders of the EOS R5 are scheduled to be delivered as initially stated at launch. The first set of cameras shipped from our warehouses this week. We eagerly await the content that will be produced by talented creatives using this camera to be shared with the world. That doesn't really say much of anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Munoz Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Cooling a weather sealed body with a powerful processor, it’s almost an oxymoron. Although processors have gotten more powerful, energy requirements and heat have gone up with it. Until processors become more efficient and use less energy, this form factor will continue to not make any sense for power hungry codecs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wikzo Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 27 minutes ago, Brett Munoz said: Cooling a weather sealed body with a powerful processor, it’s almost an oxymoron. Would it be possible for them to sacrifice part of the weather-sealing in order to be able to let out some of the heat? E.g. a small "hatch" or hole behind the flip-out screen that can be opened if you want to dissipate heat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yurolov Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: Excuse me? What's so extreme? Matthew Allard thinks he's doing his journalistic duties asking a junior PR person in a team at a Canon subsidiary. The very definition of denial and repeating the PR line. If he bothered to dig deeper and even ask single retailer he would know there is something going on. The last people I would ask is the company. You won't get any information from them. The people on the ground know what's happening. 1 hour ago, ajay said: Canon's actual response reads That doesn't really say much of anything. The devil is in the detail. They want to have plausible deniability when the inevitable recall is made, which should happen soon. Andrew is doing them a BIG favour here and it will be a cathartic moment where they can clean out house hopefully and restructure along the lines of Andrews article. Like he said, all is not lost. No one is buying cameras now. They can afford to recall and still put something decent out by next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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