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On 8/13/2020 at 9:13 PM, bjohn said:

I have a Pixel 2 that I bought as a camera and used it that way for a year until finally deciding to use it as a smartphone. It took far better photos than the Sony RX100 mark iii that I used to use as my travel camera, although the RX100 had it beat in low-light situations of course. I got disenchanted with Android due to the short (2 to 3 year) support cycle (I kept my previous cell phone going for 10+ years) and it looked like alternative ROMS such as Lineage wouldn't work on the Pixel, so I ended up switching to the new iPhone SE, which was a big mistake from the camera perspective. I hate most of the photos it takes; video is a bit better but for photos I've gone back to a real camera or else I bring the Pixel 2 without a SIM card.

I have the Rx100 iv and I think it is better than a phone still for photography at least, may be not video and the phone would have some advantages.

There are some comparison videos around comparing RX100 cameras to phones.

I watched one that compared the Pixel 3 to the Rx100 v and his verdict was the RX100 v was still the better camera for photography but the Pixel did beat it in many areas (stabilization especially).    It looked really close to me.

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3 hours ago, Chxfgb said:

I think the technology in phones is great. I used an Oppo for a couple of months before 4K became available in the GH4 and the same seems to be happening again with 8K. Obviously only good for certain conditions. 

I usually have my little Fuji XE camera for street. But have been happy with the Adonit PhotoGrip for any phone or the Bitplay Snap line for iPhones. Last one I had was great with a rubber thumb rest, decent grip and mechanical shutter button. The Adonit and others use Bluetooth for their shutter= slight lag. Great alternative to a GR for probably something like £40.

I wish more phone manufacturers would persist at combining camera ergonomics. Sony have a shutter button in a good place, but even a tiny grip makes a massive difference imo. They all seem to have tried and failed.

Just had a quick look and China have ripped off the Adonit style, which was already good value, with the one below. Delivery from China is taking forever at the moment but will get one if well reviewed as it's soon rainy season and flagship phones can be used in very heavy tropical rain, unlike my camera.

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I have that with me 😛 (Lumia 1020)

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And here it is the full size of the Magic Sydney shoot...


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2 hours ago, noone said:

I have the Rx100 iv and I think it is better than a phone still for photography at least, may be not video and the phone would have some advantages.

I agree; I had the RX100 iii which was not a particular good edition of the RX100 series. The reviews I've read say the mark iv is better.

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I've taken more and more photos on my phone, and fewer on 'proper' cameras over the last year. I've also spent some time playing around with a few different phones, assessing their cameras. Coming from the Google Pixel 3, I've found both Huawei and Samsung phones make skin tones far too pale, and insisted on smoothing skin tones (even with all beauty modes off). That's using the p30 pro and S10+ respectively. I even thought my P30 pro was faulty, and had the camera module replaced under warranty. Turned out it wasn't faulty at all!

On the whole, I like the trend for manufacturers to add multiple cameras / focal lengths. It goes a long way to make a phone replace a dedicated camera. It's just a shame that they usually add sensors so much smaller than the main one - in so many cases a crop of the main sensor looks better than the image coming out of the tele lens.

... With that said, the competition to add an inordinate amount of (crap) cameras on the back of a phone is getting pretty silly!

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7 hours ago, ThomHaig said:

I've taken more and more photos on my phone, and fewer on 'proper' cameras over the last year. I've also spent some time playing around with a few different phones, assessing their cameras. Coming from the Google Pixel 3, I've found both Huawei and Samsung phones make skin tones far too pale, and insisted on smoothing skin tones (even with all beauty modes off). That's using the p30 pro and S10+ respectively. I even thought my P30 pro was faulty, and had the camera module replaced under warranty. Turned out it wasn't faulty at all!

On the whole, I like the trend for manufacturers to add multiple cameras / focal lengths. It goes a long way to make a phone replace a dedicated camera. It's just a shame that they usually add sensors so much smaller than the main one - in so many cases a crop of the main sensor looks better than the image coming out of the tele lens.

... With that said, the competition to add an inordinate amount of (crap) cameras on the back of a phone is getting pretty silly!

I do agree with the insane quantities of focals all and almost really crappy for quality but about Huawei I guess it is a step ahead any competitors not only for the lens than for the algorithms.

The Mate 40 will sport liquid camera array

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I did go looking for a p40, cant get them in aus at the moment or not easily. No big deal, not really interested in an apple product either. So i jumped back into bed with a samsung s20. My only constraint for a phone was it has to fit the mavic controller 

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The old s2 had developed it own glow filter after years of casual abuse and wouldn't run the dji controller either so its been retired.

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first photo from the s20 after midnight because i was bored, and want to try the low light  out. I guess the s20 is total overkill just to run the mavic. 8k video will be something to experiment with as will the slow motion capabilities, eager to try the slow motion tomorrow with some balloons and water or coloured chalk dust. 

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