cameraeye Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, David Bowgett said: only for Sony to throw them a major curveball with the A7Riv, leading Canon to hastily beef up the camera's video specs in order to prevent it from being dismissed as yesterday's news as soon as it was announced. Canon are certainly shook up since the days of only having sights for Nikon as a competitor. They also strike me as a company to have things in the pipeline way off for shipping- maybe they added the HQ modes after the design was finalised, didn’t like the idea of making it too-useful a camera anyway, got in touch with Tilta for a 3rd party solution and threw caution to the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 canonrumours just posted that canon will release a firmware update: - Addition of Cinema RAW light option to 8K recording - Addition of CLog 3 - Increased record time limits (but don’t expect a huge boost) - Various bug fixes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionrouge Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I guess the more people will talk about software limitation, the more Canon will have to address the issue. @Andrew. Can you just drop the camera in your freezer and start recording? There is no way overheating should happen there except if it's a software limitation. Katrikura 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew19 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Here's the thing to remember : A large companies marketing department is totally separate from the engineering guys. that's how this type of stuff happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, visionrouge said: @Andrew. Can you just drop the camera in your freezer and start recording? There is no way overheating should happen there except if it's a software limitation. +1 Put a gopro and a light in there to film what's happening on the screen. https://www.canonrumors.com/canon-eos-r5-firmware-update-coming-soon-raw-light-to-be-added-cr2/ Come on Canon let's do it. C-LOG 3, light raw and remove your BS soft limitation so we can all be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stronz Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 The Canon R5 is the No Man's Sky of cameras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 11, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted August 11, 2020 Any teardowns of the R6 out there yet? Stronz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Bowgett Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, Stronz said: The Canon R5 is the No Man's Sky of cameras. Meanwhile, the EOS R is looking like the Phantom Menace of cameras. Initially greeted with widespread groans and people saying "We waited all those years for THIS?", only for people to quickly soften their opinions on it after being even more disappointed with what came next. Stronz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameraeye Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Stars Wars analogies do not bode well for future canon cameras. Stronz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 This camera is an expensive EOS R mk2. Almost always you will be forced to record in the lineskipped 4K modes after one hour, no matter where you are shooting from arctic tundra to jungle. If you are ok with only having lineskipped 4K at 30p max then the camera is a OK upgrade from the EOS R. Matt Johnson from WhoIsMatt tried to use it to film a wedding. His conclusion: be absolutely prepared to be shooting 4K 30p lined skipped 4K. And if you are a real video professional, then don’t get the R5. Spend your money more wisely. Which is a real shame because a lot of other specs on this camera are very very nice. The AF is top notch, human and animal eye detection, size, weight, glass...it’s just a shame the 4K HQ isn’t the default recording mode because if it was this camera would be pretty damn amazing. I would recommend watching it. It’s one of the less bullshit filled videos out there on REAL WORLD use of the camera. SteveV4D and ajay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trek of Joy Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 38 minutes ago, cameraeye said: Stars Wars analogies do not bode well for future canon cameras. LOL! Does that mean the 1dx3 mirrorless flagship will be as bad as the Vader Scream from Ep. 3? Raw light would be a great addition along with Clog 3, but I still wonder what can be done about overheating with just FW updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis de la Cerda Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Why not try to defeat the supposed artificial timer to probe for it's existence? Clock or firmware reset maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajay Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 49 minutes ago, Video Hummus said: Thanks for sharing that video. This is one of the best reviews about this camera's heat related problems. The wedding simulation he did is spot-on and how weddings nowadays are recorded. I hope Canon sees this video and how they botched this camera's ability to shoot weddings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 11, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted August 11, 2020 It's a good summary in the video. It isn't the 30 mins sold to us by Canon that is the real limitation. It's the 0 mins after a bit of light use in the menus. It's the biggest scandal I have ever known in the camera industry. Katrikura 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newfoundmass Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Camera Conspiracies loves EOSHD Andrew Reid, Emanuel, sanveer and 1 other 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted August 11, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted August 11, 2020 43 minutes ago, Luis de la Cerda said: Why not try to defeat the supposed artificial timer to probe for it's existence? Clock or firmware reset maybe? Tried the clock and reset, hasn't worked so far but we'll keep probing. 1 minute ago, newfoundmass said: Camera Conspiracies loves EOSHD TONEH!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 I sincerely think this is a good service to the filmmaking community, the more noise the better for that sake... ;- ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horshack Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said: Tried the clock and reset, hasn't worked so far but we'll keep probing. Try a battery pull while the camera is still on, both just after stopping a record and if that doesn't extend the subsequent recording time, while the video is actually recording. Check if the camera "remembers" the remaining time limit available when you plug the battery back in (details here). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, horshack said: Try a battery pull while the camera is still on, both just after stopping a record and if that doesn't extend the subsequent recording time, while the video is actually recording. Check if the camera "remembers" the remaining time limit available when you plug the battery back in (details here). This is a good angle to try. Assuming it’s a software limit and the camera doesn’t detect and do a emergency power down write which it may do to protect data being written to card (ie, closing out the file being recorded so at least the movie file isn’t corrupted). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcio Kabke Pinheiro Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Just to correct (a little) my previous assumptions - I had only saw the pictures of the dissassembly, not the video. Now I saw the video, and there is a metal part between the smaller PCB board and the mainboard, where the thermal pads makes contact. If this metal part had a heatpipe to draw the heat away, the problem could be minimized. IF the problem is really heat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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