Emanuel Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Who believes in those reviewers...? Well, I don't even bother to listen their R5 videos anymore... To have an independent voice is mandatory but also rare, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted September 10, 2020 Super Members Share Posted September 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Emanuel said: Who believes in those reviewers...? Well, I don't even bother to listen their R5 videos anymore... To have an independent voice is mandatory but also rare, unfortunately. Hence the inverted commas. Considering the absolute dragging that independent voices had and continue to have after raising this issue, why would they ever want to raise their head above the parapet again ? When that proved how so many people there are that value the currency of happy feels, idolising and faux-friendship above objective reality then the only words being said with those independent voices from now on are likely to be "Alright, get the products you deserve then". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 1 hour ago, FelixC said: So have you actually seen the video from LensRental? They did a teardown of the camera and then put a thermal camera on it without the back which is the more proper way to test for temperature. The camera over heats to the point that you will exceed the maximum temperature limits of different components. Magic Lantern cannot fix a hardware issue. Extending the time limit by getting around Canon's poor lock security will damage the camera. Really? Where's such pearl? 7 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: Hence the inverted commas. Considering the absolute dragging that independent voices had and continue to have after raising this issue, why would they ever want to raise their head above the parapet again ? When that proved how so many people there are that value the currency of happy feels, idolising and faux-friendship above objective reality then the only words being said with those independent voices from now on are likely to be "Alright, get the products you deserve then". Well, I still expect for the inventive way to look for workarounds, powered by filmmakers giving power to communities like those we've been to create also because of values such as freedom and democracy, without mention for the sake of our art and craft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyrunner33 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 48 minutes ago, FelixC said: So have you actually seen the video from LensRental? They did a teardown of the camera and then put a thermal camera on it without the back which is the more proper way to test for temperature. The camera over heats to the point that you will exceed the maximum temperature limits of different components. Magic Lantern cannot fix a hardware issue. Extending the time limit by getting around Canon's poor lock security will damage the camera. https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2020/09/investigating-the-canon-r5-heat-emission/#comment-5065269671 The only heat issue I see is the CF card getting hot enough to potentially harm someone when handling it(there's regulations for this type of stuff). As noted in the article, the EXIF reported a peak of around 63c, and they didn't observe any components reaching such temperature. The hottest spot was the CF slot after the update, it hit 57c and the card was 52c. The sensor was 48c. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etudiant Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 31 minutes ago, crazyrunner33 said: https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2020/09/investigating-the-canon-r5-heat-emission/#comment-5065269671 The only heat issue I see is the CF card getting hot enough to potentially harm someone when handling it(there's regulations for this type of stuff). As noted in the article, the EXIF reported a peak of around 63c, and they didn't observe any components reaching such temperature. The hottest spot was the CF slot after the update, it hit 57c and the card was 52c. The sensor was 48c. Iirc, various computer graphics cards operate at well over 65 degrees C, with peak temperatures over 80 degrees C not unheard of. So Canon is at least being very conservative in their 'safeguards'. as well as really sloppy in their management of the recovery times, because those seem entirely disconnected from the actual temperatures. Imho, this festering uncertainly does maximal harm to Canon. They would have been better off to say up front that the R5 was not a tool for professionals, people who should be using a C300, but just a stopgap for use in a pinch. Now there is the impression that the entire product line is an elaborate scam, with features blocked or included because of marketing dictates, rather than engineering and economics. As Intel has discovered, that approach works until it does not, but then it is a long way back... maxmizer, Emanuel and crazyrunner33 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Just confirmed that the Date change "hack" is still live with New firmware on R5. ntblowz, Jn-, horshack and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, mechanicalEYE said: Just confirmed that the Date change "hack" is still live with New firmware on R5. Thanks for the comfirmation! mechanicalEYE, Emanuel and Rob6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Yes indeed, you da man :- ) Some R5 unit on the way to my orbit... never without this... Count on it, Canon sales team! mechanicalEYE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Without mention, more EF glass to join the party... and money to enter in the equation and in their bank account and balance sheet. To cripple this R5 device is a pure shot in the foot instead : X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jn- said: “Just confirmed that the Date change "hack" is still live with New firmware on R5” Thank you. Living dangerously 🤣. Russian roulette for sure, how long can u keep this up❓ 🤣 You're all welcome. Cant say I wasn't comfortably reluctant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 8 minutes ago, mechanicalEYE said: 🤣 You're all welcome. Cant say I wasn't comfortably reluctant. My fault, a little bit, no pal...? LOL ;- ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mechanicalEYE Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Emanuel said: My fault, a little bit, no pal...? LOL ;- ) 🤣 No not at all... If I update firmware and lose a workaround it wont be anyones fault but my own. I've tip-toed into these updates since the beginning fearing that Canon was only updating to seal up some loose ends. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HansD Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Lensrentals Investigating the Canon R5 Heat Emission https://wordpress.lensrentals.com/blog/2020/09/investigating-the-canon-r5-heat-emission/ Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Seems like they knew about this battery hack now, just hope they dont patch it https://www.cined.com/canon-interview-r5-and-r6-overheating-questions-answered/ Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 11, 2020 Author Administrators Share Posted September 11, 2020 I am doing some stress tests. No issues so far and haven't had any 'low temperature burns'... This is the method in action during a field test... This is a comment on Roger's heat emissions tests, my own findings, and the Canon PR remarks to Johnnie: https://www.eoshd.com/news/canon-eos-r5-8k-stress-test-1-no-problem-with-timer-reset-so-far/ Emanuel, Rob6 and ntblowz 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerv Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Andrew. You're getting ripped on over at canonrumors comment section 😳 Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Those guy are fucking sheep, useless to talk with sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob6 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Andrew, Thanks so much for testing the camera in this way for us! I really appreciate it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 34 minutes ago, ntblowz said: Those guy are fucking sheep, useless to talk with sheep thats pretty insulting to every real sheep out there...... you should probably be comparing those people to vegan steaks or hamburgers..... ntblowz and Emanuel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf33d Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 If my R5 ever ships (ordered day 1 - lol) I will keep it and keep this firmware if they ever cripple it. With the new firmware improvement it’ll be almost good enough for my use (very short clips) and if have an issue I can always pull the battery and start again. It sucks to do that on a 4000$ camera but for the package it offers I’ll do it. Emanuel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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