androidlad Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 23.6MP sensor (IMX677), 5K 30P Video (5120 x 2880), 20MP photos, 1.4in front screen for preview/status, 2.27in main screen, 479 Euro. Rinad Amir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 "5599 x 4223@55fps 12bit 5599 x 4223@88fps 10bit 4K2K@120fps 10bit 1080p@300fps 10bit" It may actually have good 4k as well as good HDR for photo too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 I tiny 1\2.3 inch 23mp sensor (Sony IMX667) will give us even worth DR than the previous GoPRO. Why oh why do they keep using those tiny puny sensors? Why not put an IMX700 (same as in Huawei P40, 1\1.28 inch) in there? If new Osmo Action will use IMX700 or similar, they will crush GoPro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Who says they might not be doing a 4K60/120p HDR mode that is averaging frames at different exposures? Very possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
androidlad Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, Amazeballs said: I tiny 1\2.3 inch 23mp sensor (Sony IMX667) will give us even worth DR than the previous GoPRO. Why oh why do they keep using those tiny puny sensors? Why not put an IMX700 (same as in Huawei P40, 1\1.28 inch) in there? If new Osmo Action will use IMX700 or similar, they will crush GoPro. Sony Semicon imposes strict licensing restrictions, one of these restrictions is that certain sensors can only be put in specific products (eg. mobile phone only). This is why drone cameras from Autel/DJI have only recently started using the more than 3 years old IMX586 sensor. Juank, AlexTrinder96 and ntblowz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 29 minutes ago, androidlad said: Sony Semicon imposes strict licensing restrictions, one of these restrictions is that certain sensors can only be put in specific products (eg. mobile phone only). This is why drone cameras from Autel/DJI have only recently started using the more than 3 years old IMX586 sensor. Does that mean we gonna see 48MP on Osmo Action 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, androidlad said: Sony Semicon imposes strict licensing restrictions, one of these restrictions is that certain sensors can only be put in specific products (eg. mobile phone only). Why the hell do they do that? Whats their game? Do Samsung have similar restrictions on their sensors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Amazeballs said: Why the hell do they do that? Whats their game? Do Samsung have similar restrictions on their sensors? Yeah. Kinda sounds like that certain other company that can’t seem to license PDAF at any price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Hummus Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Some other company really needs to step into the image sensor market. Samsung? A new player? Because I see So y Semiconductors Solutions strict licensing terms do nothing but hurt the camera industry. Maybe that’s just how things are run in Japan? Seems like all the other manufactures are at the complete mercy of Sony Semicon. Except Sony cameras of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 It's a good thing that GoPros have smaller sensors and can implement the higher resolutions/framerates before the cameras with the larger sensors can. Oh, hang on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 2:59 PM, kye said: It's a good thing that GoPros have smaller sensors and can implement the higher resolutions/framerates before the cameras with the larger sensors can. Oh, hang on... i have been considering getting an 8 for for a 75mm cinewoop perhaps i'll wait and see what the 9 is like. I think the two last frame rates hold a certain fascination for me 4K2K@120fps 10bit 1080p@300fps 10bit" If it has some type of cinema / log file rather than the standard .264 .265 then it would be a done deal for me at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 On 9/10/2020 at 6:59 AM, kye said: It's a good thing that GoPros have smaller sensors and can implement the higher resolutions/framerates before the cameras with the larger sensors can. Oh, hang on... 48mp sensor could give good pixel-binned 4K, but I doubt 8K from such tiny sensors will be usable Ć(better than 4K) anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kye Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, leslie said: i have been considering getting an 8 for for a 75mm cinewoop perhaps i'll wait and see what the 9 is like. I think the two last frame rates hold a certain fascination for me 4K2K@120fps 10bit 1080p@300fps 10bit" If it has some type of cinema / log file rather than the standard .264 .265 then it would be a done deal for me at least. Yeah, 1080p 300fps 10bit would be great for a cinewhoop. 21 minutes ago, JurijTurnsek said: 48mp sensor could give good pixel-binned 4K, but I doubt 8K from such tiny sensors will be usable Ć(better than 4K) anytime soon. I was being sarcastic - reacting to the headline that it'll do 5K30 and 4K60. That's the kind of headline that announces that a camera designed in 2017 has finally been released. Part of the advantage of smaller sensors is that they can do faster video modes than larger ones, but it looks like GoPro has fallen way behind in this regard, if 4K60 is where it's at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 It's looking pretty promising. I am also suddenly curious, as to why GoPro didn't use its market dominance to have custom image sensors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 No mention of 10bit recording on the side of the box. 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 hours ago, stv said: No mention of 10bit recording on the side of the box. 🙁 I doubt it's there. I am surprised more people didn't make a big deal about missing it on the A7c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JurijTurnsek Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 20mp bodes well for the updated HyperSmooth 3.0 and also for a bit of cropping and still keeping that 4K pixel count. I don't know how to calculate this, but if it can got to a 24mm FOV, that would make it a great Osmo Pocket alternative (which has a 28mm lens). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazeballs Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Its much wider than 24mm, its a fisheye and is around 16mm. No comparison here. Though I do hate fisheye personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JurijTurnsek Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Amazeballs said: Its much wider than 24mm, its a fisheye and is around 16mm. No comparison here. Though I do hate fisheye personally. I mentioned cropping in. I know how wide the lens is. Looks like it can go to 34mm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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